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  1. MisterEd's Avatar
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    jimjoe said:
    I think they changed the rules just to stop them from becoming astronauts. I saw a NASA official on telly, he came across as more jealous of their funding than anything else.
    I think you are looking at the wrong way. NASA and other governments look at Astronauts as a profession. Commercial airplane pilots look at it the same. You certainly wouldn't call anyone a pilot or even flight crew that flew as a passenger on a airplane.

    There is already an established term for people that merely flew into space

    Spaceflight participant is the term used by the NASA, Roscosmos, and the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) for people who travel into space, but who are not professional astronauts.

    Until recently the only ones with astronauts were NASA and the military. It makes sense for rules to be enacted to reflect the fact that there are now:
    1. Private companies flying their own spacecraft and "astronauts"
    2. Private companies planning for space tourism

    These possibilities did not exist twenty years ago.

    I think it is important to distinguish between spacecraft pilots, space mission active participants, and people just along for the ride. Even with the FAA's new rule change their is still a lot of ambiguity and room for change. This will probably evolve and change in the future.

    FAA Commercial Space Astronaut Wings Program
    https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/...der_8800.2.pdf

    United States Astronaut Badge
    United States Astronaut Badge - Wikipedia

    Commercial astronaut
    Commercial astronaut - Wikipedia

    Astronaut
    Astronaut - Wikipedia

    Spaceflight participant
    Spaceflight participant - Wikipedia
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    The first several NASA flights, the astronauts had no control. At least not that I remember. The Soviet Cosmonauts certainly didn't. And yet, they were cosmonauts.

    As I said above, I saw a NASA official speak about it. Whining is my impression of him.
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  3. MisterEd's Avatar
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    Houston we have a problem....

    Boeing was supposed to launch Starliner today but problems aboard the ISS caused a delay until next Tuesday.

    Russia says 'software failure' caused thruster misfire at space station

    Boeing's Starliner capsule rolls away from pad after launch delay (photos)
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    Boeing Starliner OFT-2 test flight
    Tuesday August 3 at 1:20 p.m. EDT (1720 GMT)

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    NASA Live: Official Stream of NASA TV - YouTube
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  6. Paul Black's Avatar
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    Unfortunately, due to technical problems, this has been postponed until tomorrow.

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  7. Barman58's Avatar
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    That's sounds like the story of my life Paul
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  8. MisterEd's Avatar
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    Paul Black said:
    Unfortunately, due to technical problems, this has been postponed until tomorrow.

    NASA, @BoeingSpace, and @ULALaunch have scrubbed today's launch to the @Space_Station due to unexpected valve position indications in the Starliner propulsion system. The next launch opportunity would be Aug. 4 at 12:57pm ET (16:57 UTC).
    https://twitter.com/NASA/status/1422574781480722441

    I bet there is a lot of pressure to complete the OFT-2 test flight. Boeing would like to launch Crew Flight Test (Boe-CFT) before the end of 2021. A successful OFT-2 test flight might make that possible.

    Update:

    Launch of Boeing's Starliner capsule delayed indefinitely
    Launch of Boeing's Starliner capsule delayed indefinitely | Space
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  9. Paul Black's Avatar
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    Barman58 said:
    That's sounds like the story of my life Paul.
    Snap.
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