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  1. A Guy's Avatar
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       #1721

    Winuser said:
    I found out something interesting about my 2017 Ram the other day. I only wanted to pull it up about a foot and I didn't have the seat belt on and the driver door was open. The brake came on and the warning buzzer went off until I put it back in park.
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    It's been a feature several years now

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  2. Barman58's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Pro x64 Latest RP - XP/Vista/Win7/Win8.1 in VM for testing
       #1722

    Is it normal In the USA to rely on the auto box to hold a car? I'm a Manual shift guy as are most of UK drivers and had the routine for leaving the vehicle driven into me when I learned to drive.

    Stop car switch off engine, hold car with foot brake if an an incline, apply Hand brake, (parking Brake), select First or Reverse Gear (depending if you are on a hill and which way you are facing relative to that hill), also turn the wheels to an angle that will cause the car to turn away from the traffic flow, should all the above fail

    I had to actually sit and think what I do before writing this as It's a instinctive thing for me now
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  3. CountMike's Avatar
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       #1723

    Barman58 said:
    Is it normal In the USA to rely on the auto box to hold a car? I'm a Manual shift guy as are most of UK drivers and had the routine for leaving the vehicle driven into me when I learned to drive.

    Stop car switch off engine, hold car with foot brake if an an incline, apply Hand brake, (parking Brake), select First or Reverse Gear (depending if you are on a hill and which way you are facing relative to that hill), also turn the wheels to an angle that will cause the car to turn away from the traffic flow, should all the above fail

    I had to actually sit and think what I do before writing this as It's a instinctive thing for me now
    Don't know about USA but in Canada that's exactly as thought in driving schools and required to do during drive tests.
    Leaving transmission in a gear opposite of possible sliding direction has mixed results depending on engine compression ratio and size. My latest V8 engine of 7100cc had 11.2 ratio and would hold my pickup at 45 degree ramp. With a small car you can even push it when in gear. In other words it doesn't do much but can help.
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  4. A Guy's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Home x64 21H1
       #1724

    I always use the parking break on my automatic. But I see people parking all the time without. You can see them rock back and forth some when they release the brake. This is a bad habit for many reasons

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  5. CountMike's Avatar
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       #1725

    I installed hydraulic brake lock for all 4 wheels on my last Mercury pickup after having it slide down relatively mild but iced slope on a parking lot even after leaving it in gear and with parking brake on. Much better when all 4 are locked.
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  6. Winuser's Avatar
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       #1726

    A Guy said:
    Guess I should take some time to look through the owners manual.
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  7. Winuser's Avatar
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       #1727

    A Guy said:
    I always use the parking break on my automatic. But I see people parking all the time without. You can see them rock back and forth some when they release the brake. This is a bad habit for many reasons

    A Guy
    I have to admit that I only use the parking brake when on a incline. My very first car had a push button automatic transmission with no park. The parking brake was part of the transmission. On the end of the transmission were the drive shaft connected was a small drum with brake shoes inside.
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  8. Winuser's Avatar
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       #1728

    CountMike said:
    I installed hydraulic brake lock for all 4 wheels on my last Mercury pickup after having it slide down relatively mild but iced slope on a parking lot even after leaving it in gear and with parking brake on. Much better when all 4 are locked.
    The mechanics at work did that to a few of the trucks years ago. They got tired of the drivers leaving the parking brakes on and burning them out. The parking brakes were on the transmissions. Works good as long as long as the hydraulic system doesn't get a leak.
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  9. meebers's Avatar
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    W10 21H1 19043.1055 & W10 Insider
       #1729

    Wife was in surgery yesterday and I had to sit in the waiting room holding her purse. Decided to just put it in the car and come back to the waiting room. Once I did that the car would no longer allow me to lock the vehicle??? After some thought, the cars "idiot proof" features will not allow you to lock the car with your key fob inside. Removed her fob and put it in my pocket, then the car locked. Duh!!!
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  10. sygnus21's Avatar
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    Win 10 Pro (x64) 21H1 (19043.1023
       #1730

    Barman58 said:
    Is it normal In the USA to rely on the auto box to hold a car?
    Not clear on what you mean, but if auto box is an automatic transmission, then yes, I most definitely rely on the transmission's park position to hold the car in place during park. For me, I rarely ever use the parking brake except in hilly areas or if doing maintenance where I need to set the brakes.

    Today's auto transmissions are designed so they don't "slip" out of park. In fact most cars (both my 2005 and 2017) today require power to the engine to move the car's shifter out or the park position.

    As for manual transmissions - most Americans (me included) drive automatic transmission cars. In fact most cars sold in the US are automatic transmission types.

    Being I was in the military and stationed overseas I had to learn to drive a "stick" (manual transmission) since our flight-line trucks were Mercedes with manual transmissions. That said, the last time I drove a stick was back in 2000 when I was deployed to Iceland.
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