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  1.    2 Weeks Ago #171
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    Well I first found this and under "Leases" I think (don't remember for sure) there was something there, with some zeros, as if blank. So I changed "Leases" to "CreateTimeout" and inserted 1200000 which was too large for either hex or decimal. I quit, and changed the name back to Leases and used System Restore which left Leases without the zeros I thought I first saw there

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    now I found THIS over SPP


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    and wonder about this (have NO idea what/how/IF to do anything!!)

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    it's called Inactivity/ShutdownDelay

    IF I did something I would need EXACT instructions as to how to insert numerals and where, since I do not understand x
    or e or (30), for ex.
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  2.    2 Weeks Ago #172
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Arnold, MD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airider View Post
    Well I first found this and under "Leases" I think (don't remember for sure) there was something there, with some zeros, as if blank. So I changed "Leases" to "CreateTimeout" and inserted 1200000 which was too large for either hex or decimal. I quit, and changed the name back to Leases and used System Restore which left Leases without the zeros I thought I first saw there

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    now I found THIS over SPP


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    and wonder about this (have NO idea what/how/IF to do anything!!)

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    it's called Inactivity/ShutdownDelay

    IF I did something I would need EXACT instructions as to how to insert numerals and where, since I do not understand x
    or e or (30), for ex.
    First, the instructions said to have that key value in the SPP key, not anywhere else. And if it did not exist, to create the 32-bit DWORD, with the appropriate values in Milliseconds.

    Based on this post and your comments, I would suggest you drop this suggestion. No offense, but if you don't know your way around the registry, you can get in a big pile of trouble real fast.
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  3.    2 Weeks Ago #173
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    Of course no offense taken (this is not my field)

    I just rechecked and this is what I may have seen before, anyway after dism/restorehealth, this is how it now is .... and as you wrote, only involves the SPP key.
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    but I still don't know if or what or how to change " 0x00000083 (131) "

    obviously I should add a new key, but do not know how (or if to try)
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  4.    2 Weeks Ago #174
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airider View Post
    Of course no offense taken (this is not my field)

    I just rechecked and this is what I may have seen before, anyway after dism/restorehealth, this is how it now is .... and as you wrote, only involves the SPP key.
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    but I still don't know if or what or how to change " 0x00000083 (131) "

    obviously I should add a new key, but do not know how (or if to try)
    I, or any number of members here, could show you how to add the proper sub-key and it's value. I doubt that would really get you anywhere. If successful, it might just change the "Freeze" delay you're getting from the current 5 minutes, to 15, or 20 minutes. I think you should pursue the answer for the freeze itself, and not how to delay it. Just IMO.

    I have deleted my post referencing this. I don't think it's suitable for this issue.
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  5.    2 Weeks Ago #175
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    Thank you for all your help; I accept your advice and insight as well as that of axe0

    Anyway I am happy the machine works so very well despite having to play babysitter if I need to run to make coffee, etc. It is not so difficult to remember to move the cursor well before 5 min, or to put the machine in Sleep mode for a longer pause.

    Perhaps someone will find a solution, even MS eventually.
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  6.    2 Weeks Ago #176
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airider View Post
    Thank you for all your help; I accept your advice and insight as well as that of axe0

    Anyway I am happy the machine works so very well despite having to play babysitter if I need to run to make coffee, etc. It is not so difficult to remember to move the cursor well before 5 min, or to put the machine in Sleep mode for a longer pause.

    Perhaps someone will find a solution, even MS eventually.
    Best of luck. Cheers! TC
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  7.    2 Weeks Ago #177
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    Quote Originally Posted by itsme1 View Post
    This is not a clean install. w.1703 was installed with windows update. You have to try the clean install: download w.1703, put it on cd or usb key, start with the cd or usb key, choose custom intallation, format and delete the partitions (except the hp of restoration if there is one ), the partitions will be recreated by clicking new ... At first do not install the hp drivers to see if there freeze or not. if it does not freeze anymore, install the hp drivers gradually.
    Actually MS considers using Reset to be a Clean Install

    It removes everything except some apps which are saved and put on desktop, the rest have to be downloaded and installed again.

    I have actually done this 2x over the summer and if MS considers that a Clean Install, I shall not dispute it



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    How to Perform a clean install using Reset this PC in Windows 10 - Microsoft Community

    Forum Article

    How to: Perform a clean install using Reset this PC in Windows 10

    Technical Level : Basic

    Summary
    If you have been running Windows 10 for a while and you would like perform clean or you plan to recycle a PC (giveaway to a friend, charity or resell), you should use the Reset this PC function. Previously we looked at using the Recovery Drive function which provides the same functions but it is intended more for situations where your PC might not be functioning or if you want to reinstall Windows 10 on a new hard disk. If your Windows 10 PC is working just fine, the Reset this PC function is all that you need in most cases. In this article we take a look at using it to perform a clean install.
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  8.    2 Weeks Ago #178
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    A good clean install is an install process where nothing is kept.
    Clean Install Windows 10 Installation Upgrade Tutorials
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  9.    2 Weeks Ago #179
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    Am slowly preparing for a Clean Install as indicated above. First I had to make sure that my backed-up files were up to date. My files are 134GB, probably because WinX + Classic Shell manage to store identical Documents in FOUR separate places/addresses. Well, boom the Emtec USB stick failed (DEAD: Windows Reliability Monitor recorded it as a Hardware Failure; tested all USB ports with another, smaller stick and the computer itself is fine!) after working to update a few times a month since the spring. Receipt disappeared so now have new USD$109 256GB one from SanDisk storing away and seemingly working fine (256GB from Emtec now selling here for USD$129 - 149; the now-failed 256GB one "only" cost USD$60, maybe why it failed?). B.t.w., for months I have been storing the now-dead Emtec one directly on top of my old Toshiba HDD which I know uses magnetic storage: could that have led to the Emtec failure?

    Next, have found the Windows Product Key using Powershell (info had been very brutally scraped off the back of this otherwise very nice HP EliteBook 840 G2). I changed the supposed product key to what Windows found inside and used that to Activate the already activated WinX Pro as a test. It was accepted. But am still not 1,000% sure if it is really legit, so I now have an appointment with a nearby HP authorized repairman (+ CS/IT expert) who will quickly inspect the machine and decide if/how he or I shall do a proper Clean Install and how to backup the present "iffy" OP if a Clean Install should fail. In that case if we both agree he will sell me a new WinX Pro for USD$150, compared to the normal STORE price here of USD$249 (he only has a license to sell new business stuff from HP and that includes the Pro version, which is the one I want since it allows me to control Windows Downloads; also he would sell me one in English while the normal stores only have it in German; I use an English Language Pack in this version).

    I have a lot of complaints about the now out-of-business creep who sold me this device and whatever nonsense he did with WinX Pro .... but I love this EliteBook as well as HP support and I would never have found this out otherwise, previously thinking that HP was problematic and not top-level.
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  10.    2 Weeks Ago #180
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airider View Post
    Am slowly preparing for a Clean Install as indicated above. First I had to make sure that my backed-up files were up to date. My files are 134GB, probably because WinX + Classic Shell manage to store identical Documents in FOUR separate places/addresses. Well, boom the Emtec USB stick failed (DEAD: Windows Reliability Monitor recorded it as a Hardware Failure; tested all USB ports with another, smaller stick and the computer itself is fine!) after working to update a few times a month since the spring. Receipt disappeared so now have new USD$109 256GB one from SanDisk storing away and seemingly working fine (256GB from Emtec now selling here for USD$129 - 149; the now-failed 256GB one "only" cost USD$60, maybe why it failed?). B.t.w., for months I have been storing the now-dead Emtec one directly on top of my old Toshiba HDD which I know uses magnetic storage: could that have led to the Emtec failure?

    Next, have found the Windows Product Key using Powershell (info had been very brutally scraped off the back of this otherwise very nice HP EliteBook 840 G2). I changed the supposed product key to what Windows found inside and used that to Activate the already activated WinX Pro as a test. It was accepted. But am still not 1,000% sure if it is really legit, so I now have an appointment with a nearby HP authorized repairman (+ CS/IT expert) who will quickly inspect the machine and decide if/how he or I shall do a proper Clean Install and how to backup the present "iffy" OP if a Clean Install should fail. In that case if we both agree he will sell me a new WinX Pro for USD$150, compared to the normal STORE price here of USD$249 (he only has a license to sell new business stuff from HP and that includes the Pro version, which is the one I want since it allows me to control Windows Downloads; also he would sell me one in English while the normal stores only have it in German; I use an English Language Pack in this version).

    I have a lot of complaints about the now out-of-business creep who sold me this device and whatever nonsense he did with WinX Pro .... but I love this EliteBook as well as HP support and I would never have found this out otherwise, previously thinking that HP was problematic and not top-level.
    Only one comment...Classic Shell does not "store" anything. It is a shell user interface. Good luck with your laptop.
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