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  1.    03 Sep 2017 #51
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  2.    03 Sep 2017 #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by higgsbizonu View Post
    Will the backplane control itself? Do not you have to do something?
    Please rephrase the questions.
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  3.    03 Sep 2017 #53
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    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit

    For windows driver verifier please use the custom settings in this link:

    Microsoft Community

    Whenever there is a bsod please post a new zip:

    BSOD - Posting Instructions - Windows 10 Forums

    These are the 3 methods to turn off windows driver verifier: (they should be used in this order only if the previous step fails to turn off windows driver verifier)

    1) windows advanced troubleshooting menu > startup options (not startup repair) > select #6 safe mode with command prompt > type: verifier /reset
    2) windows advanced troubleshooting menu > command prompt > Administrator X:\windows\system32\cmd.exe > verifier /bootmode resetonbootfail
    3) windows advanced troubleshooting menu > restore

    The 3rd step leads to a loss of the mini dump file and little progress is made in the throubleshooting. So this step should only be used when the others fail to turn off windows driver verifier.
    Last edited by zbook; 03 Sep 2017 at 15:14.
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  4.    05 Sep 2017 #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by zbook View Post
    For windows driver verifier please use the custom settings in this link:

    Microsoft Community

    Whenever there is a bsod please post a new zip:

    BSOD - Posting Instructions - Windows 10 Forums

    These are the 3 methods to turn off windows driver verifier: (they should be used in this order only if the previous step fails to turn off windows driver verifier)

    1) windows advanced troubleshooting menu > startup options (not startup repair) > select #6 safe mode with command prompt > type: verifier /reset
    2) windows advanced troubleshooting menu > command prompt > Administrator X:\windows\system32\cmd.exe > verifier /bootmode resetonbootfail
    3) windows advanced troubleshooting menu > restore

    The 3rd step leads to a loss of the mini dump file and little progress is made in the throubleshooting. So this step should only be used when the others fail to turn off windows driver verifier.
    Attachment 151979

    I tested for 8 hours.

    I know I have not passed 8 but I do not have that much time.
    It takes 18-19 hours

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  5.    05 Sep 2017 #55
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    There is little if any value in the test if you don't meet the criteria for a valid test.

    For every test there are:
    true positives.........................errors with malfunctioning RAM /DIMM / Motherboard
    true negatives.......................no errors with normally functioning RAM /DIMM /Motherboard
    false positives.......................errors with normally functioning RAM /DIMM /Motherboard
    false negatives......................no errors with malfunctioning RAM / DIMM / Motherboard
    accuracy................................mathematical calculation of the above 4 parameters

    If you use Memtest86+ for 8 or more passes then you reduce the false negatives and make the test useful.
    If you use Memtest86+ for less than 8 passes the false negative rate can be significant so those test are not used.

    A false negative again is a test result of pass when there is malfunctioning RAM, DIMM /Motherboard
    The number of passes was insufficient. Sometimes it takes 20 + passes to display errors.

    You can test 1 RAM module at a time to reduce testing time but then you do not test multichannel functionality.
    You can rule in / rule out faulty RAM by testing 1 module at a time for 8 or more passes.
    Testing for less than 8 passes is wasting time as the testing is inadequate.

    Microsoft Community


    MemTest86+ - Test RAM Windows 10 BSOD Tutorials
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  6.    05 Sep 2017 #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by zbook View Post
    There is little if any value in the test if you don't meet the criteria for a valid test.

    For every test there are:
    true positives.........................errors with malfunctioning RAM /DIMM / Motherboard
    true negatives.......................no errors with normally functioning RAM /DIMM /Motherboard
    false positives.......................errors with normally functioning RAM /DIMM /Motherboard
    false negatives......................no errors with malfunctioning RAM / DIMM / Motherboard
    accuracy................................mathematical calculation of the above 4 parameters

    If you use Memtest86+ for 8 or more passes then you reduce the false negatives and make the test useful.
    If you use Memtest86+ for less than 8 passes the false negative rate can be significant so those test are not used.

    A false negative again is a test result of pass when there is malfunctioning RAM, DIMM /Motherboard
    The number of passes was insufficient. Sometimes it takes 20 + passes to display errors.

    You can test 1 RAM module at a time to reduce testing time but then you do not test multichannel functionality.
    You can rule in / rule out faulty RAM by testing 1 module at a time for 8 or more passes.
    Testing for less than 8 passes is wasting time as the testing is inadequate.

    Microsoft Community


    MemTest86+ - Test RAM Windows 10 BSOD Tutorials
    I will take a photo when I see 8 pass and I will go to ESC.
    is there anything going to happen?

    Does it mean that when I see 8 passes, it's smooth?

    i did not understand them

    There is little if any value in the test if you don't meet the criteria for a valid test.

    For every test there are:
    true positives.........................errors with malfunctioning RAM /DIMM / Motherboard
    true negatives.......................no errors with normally functioning RAM /DIMM /Motherboard
    false positives.......................errors with normally functioning RAM /DIMM /Motherboard
    false negatives......................no errors with malfunctioning RAM / DIMM / Motherboard
    accuracy................................mathematical calculation of the above 4 parameters
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  7.    05 Sep 2017 #57
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    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit

    For each test it must meet certain testing requirements.
    If there is just 1 error that is a fail and you can abort testing.
    If there are no errors the more the passes the better the test as the more passes the less likely there is a false negative.
    There have been some tests where there were no errors until there were passes in the 20's.
    So we use a minimum of 8 passes and the more the better.
    You are attempting to evaluate the RAM /DIMM /Motherboard with the memtest86+ version 5.01 software algorithm.
    When the software has made 8 or more passes please use a camera or smart phone camera to take a picture and post an image into the thread.
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  8.    06 Sep 2017 #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by zbook View Post
    For each test it must meet certain testing requirements.
    If there is just 1 error that is a fail and you can abort testing.
    If there are no errors the more the passes the better the test as the more passes the less likely there is a false negative.
    There have been some tests where there were no errors until there were passes in the 20's.
    So we use a minimum of 8 passes and the more the better.
    You are attempting to evaluate the RAM /DIMM /Motherboard with the memtest86+ version 5.01 software algorithm.
    When the software has made 8 or more passes please use a camera or smart phone camera to take a picture and post an image into the thread.
    Attachment 152122
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  9.    06 Sep 2017 #59
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    Okay 16 GB RAM tested for 8 passes with 0 errors.
    Make a brand new restore point.
    Use Macrium to make a backup image of the drive and place the image on another drive or the cloud.
    Macrium Software | Your Image is Everything
    Turn on Windows driver verifier.
    Use these customized settings: Microsoft Community
    Review the 3 methods to turn off Windows drive verifier.
    Enable and Disable Driver Verifier in Windows 10 Windows 10 Performance Maintenance Tutorials
    Download and install if not already done both Bluescreenview and Whocrashed.
    Blue screen of death (STOP error) information in dump files.
    http://www.resplendence.com/whocrashed
    For any new BSOD please post a new zip: Posting Instructions - Windows 10 Forums
    Last edited by zbook; 06 Sep 2017 at 08:29.
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  10.    07 Sep 2017 #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by zbook View Post
    Okay 16 GB RAM tested for 8 passes with 0 errors.
    Make a brand new restore point.
    Use Macrium to make a backup image of the drive and place the image on another drive or the cloud.
    Macrium Software | Your Image is Everything
    Turn on Windows driver verifier.
    Use these customized settings: Microsoft Community
    Review the 3 methods to turn off Windows drive verifier.
    Enable and Disable Driver Verifier in Windows 10 Windows 10 Performance Maintenance Tutorials
    Download and install if not already done both Bluescreenview and Whocrashed.
    Blue screen of death (STOP error) information in dump files.
    http://www.resplendence.com/whocrashed
    For any new BSOD please post a new zip: Posting Instructions - Windows 10 Forums
    First I installed windows 8.1. I cleaned the disk completely while building it. Then I restored windows 10. I used my computer for 1 day without problems. I entered the game today gave a red screen error. Computer restarted. Then he gave a blue screen error on the desktop. Let's find out which driver is doing it now 20 days.

    Memory.dmp : https://1drv.ms/u/s!Amn7iDjfwgPShQ_E1uyU195dLoV8
    Dump : Attachment 152254
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