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  1.    31 Aug 2017 #21
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    I switched back the language cause I thought I solved it, sorry for making this difficult

    Im experiencing the same blue screen as before, one day it was multiple times in a row while playing a game, now it only happened once and not since, its just random it seems. Might have something to do with how demanding what Im playing is. But Ive tried more demanding games since I clean installed the nvidia drivers and it ran fine. Now it crashed once again so the problem is still there. But the frequency of blue screens and the games it occurs dont really have a pattern from what I can see

    I dont have a backup and yes I guess I could reinstall, I was just hoping there was something less drastic I could do to solve this

    Do you see that I have Daemon tools? Cause I dont see it anywhere
    And Memory dumps is checked
    BSOD MACHINE_CHECK_EXCEPTION during every game Attached Files
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  2.    31 Aug 2017 #22
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    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit

    The Ccleaner is removing the memory dumps. Please make sure that it is un-checked.

    The startup.txt displays that Daemon is still installed.

    See this link to uninstall Daemon:

    Uninstallation - DAEMON Tools Pro Help

    After modifying ccleaner and uninstalling daemon tools please perform the following steps:
    1) backup all files to the cloud or to another drive
    2) make a backup image using Macrium:
    Macrium Software | Your Image is Everything
    3) place the backup image into the cloud or another drive
    4) create a brand new restore point



    Please see post #5
    For each number please indicate what you have and have not done.
    For anything that was done and reports/images have not yet been posted into the thread please post the reports and images.
    Last edited by zbook; 31 Aug 2017 at 20:54.
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  3.    01 Sep 2017 #23
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    Here are the command prompt tests from the 5th post

    Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.15063](c) 2017 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
    C:\WINDOWS\system32>sfc /scannow
    Beginning system scan.
    This process will take some time.Beginning verification phase of system scan.
    Verification 100% complete.
    Windows Resource Protection did not find any integrity violations.
    C:\WINDOWS\system32>dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management toolVersion: 10.0.15063.0Image Version: 10.0.15063.0
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The restore operation completed successfully.The operation completed successfully.
    C:\WINDOWS\system32>chkdsk /scan
    The type of the file system is NTFS.
    Volume label is SSD.Stage 1: Examining basic file system structure ... 643584 file records processed.
    File verification completed. 10494 large file records processed. 0 bad file records processed.
    Stage 2: Examining file name linkage ... 1357730 index entries processed.
    Index verification completed. 0 unindexed files scanned. 0 unindexed files recovered to lost and found.
    Stage 3: Examining security descriptors ...Security descriptor verification completed. 357074 data files processed.
    CHKDSK is verifying Usn Journal... 38475224 USN bytes processed.
    Usn Journal verification completed.
    Windows has scanned the file system and found no problems.
    No further action is required. 233850879 KB total disk space. 204290552 KB in 238084 files. 301984 KB in 357075 indexes. 0 KB in bad sectors. 775735 KB in use by the system. 65536 KB occupied by the log file. 28482608 KB available on disk. 4096 bytes in each allocation unit. 58462719 total allocation units on disk. 7120652 allocation units available on disk.

    I have downloaded Macrium reflect and created an image and also the restore point

    I ran prime, made sure there wasnt overclocking, CPU diagnostic aswell. I havent done memtest, HD sentinel or GPU diagnostic as I thought the issue was pinpointed to either drivers or CPU problem, but I will do these tests.

    So turns out that I do have Daemon tools lite but I dont see it in "Uninstall a program" or CCleaners uninstall tab, nor does it have an uninstall file in its directory

    Here are logs and pictures from the prime scan
    Code:
    [Mon Aug 28 17:31:12 2017]Self-test 12K passed!Self-test 12K passed!Self-test 12K passed!Self-test 12K passed![Mon Aug 28 17:36:36 2017]Self-test 8K passed!Self-test 8K passed!Self-test 8K passed!Self-test 8K passed![Mon Aug 28 17:41:56 2017]Self-test 15K passed!Self-test 15K passed!Self-test 15K passed!Self-test 15K passed![Mon Aug 28 20:53:02 2017]Self-test 12K passed!Self-test 12K passed!Self-test 12K passed!Self-test 12K passed![Mon Aug 28 20:58:07 2017]Self-test 8K passed!Self-test 8K passed!Self-test 8K passed!Self-test 8K passed![Mon Aug 28 21:04:05 2017]Self-test 15K passed!Self-test 15K passed!Self-test 15K passed!Self-test 15K passed![Mon Aug 28 21:10:03 2017]Self-test 10K passed!Self-test 10K passed!Self-test 10K passed!Self-test 10K passed![Mon Aug 28 21:15:18 2017]Self-test 16K passed!Self-test 16K passed!Self-test 16K passed!Self-test 16K passed![Mon Aug 28 21:20:25 2017]Self-test 12K passed!Self-test 12K passed!Self-test 12K passed!Self-test 12K passed![Mon Aug 28 21:26:10 2017]Self-test 8K passed!Self-test 8K passed!Self-test 8K passed!Self-test 8K passed![Mon Aug 28 21:31:56 2017]Self-test 15K passed!Self-test 15K passed!Self-test 15K passed!Self-test 15K passed![Mon Aug 28 21:37:28 2017]Self-test 10K passed!Self-test 10K passed!Self-test 10K passed!Self-test 10K passed![Mon Aug 28 21:42:39 2017]Self-test 16K passed!Self-test 16K passed!Self-test 16K passed!Self-test 16K passed![Mon Aug 28 21:48:47 2017]Self-test 12K passed!Self-test 12K passed!Self-test 12K passed!Self-test 12K passed![Mon Aug 28 21:54:06 2017]Self-test 8K passed!Self-test 8K passed!Self-test 8K passed!Self-test 8K passed![Mon Aug 28 21:59:25 2017]Self-test 15K passed!Self-test 15K passed!Self-test 15K passed!Self-test 15K passed![Mon Aug 28 22:05:16 2017]Self-test 10K passed!Self-test 10K passed!Self-test 10K passed!Self-test 10K passed![Mon Aug 28 22:10:21 2017]Self-test 16K passed!Self-test 16K passed!Self-test 16K passed![Mon Aug 28 22:15:53 2017]Self-test 16K 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passed!Self-test 12K passed!Self-test 16K passed!Self-test 12K passed![Fri Sep 01 11:58:17 2017]Self-test 8K passed!Self-test 12K passed!Self-test 12K passed!Self-test 8K passed![Fri Sep 01 12:04:16 2017]Self-test 15K passed!Self-test 8K passed!Self-test 15K passed!Self-test 8K passed![Fri Sep 01 12:09:35 2017]Self-test 10K passed!Self-test 10K passed!Self-test 15K passed!Self-test 15K passed![Fri Sep 01 12:15:34 2017]Self-test 16K passed!Self-test 16K passed!Self-test 10K passed!Self-test 10K passed![Fri Sep 01 12:22:12 2017]Self-test 12K passed!Self-test 16K passed!Self-test 12K passed!Self-test 16K passed![Fri Sep 01 12:28:51 2017]Self-test 8K passed!Self-test 12K passed!Self-test 8K passed!Self-test 12K passed![Fri Sep 01 12:35:30 2017]Self-test 15K passed!Self-test 8K passed!Self-test 15K passed!Self-test 8K passed![Fri Sep 01 12:42:03 2017]Self-test 15K passed!Self-test 15K passed!Self-test 10K passed!Self-test 10K passed![Fri Sep 01 12:48:56 2017]Self-test 16K passed!Self-test 10K passed!Self-test 16K passed!Self-test 10K passed![Fri Sep 01 12:54:34 2017]Self-test 12K passed!Self-test 16K passed!Self-test 12K passed!Self-test 16K passed![Fri Sep 01 13:00:38 2017]Self-test 8K passed!Self-test 12K passed!Self-test 8K passed!Self-test 12K passed![Fri Sep 01 13:05:40 2017]Self-test 15K passed!Self-test 15K passed!Self-test 8K passed!Self-test 8K passed![Fri Sep 01 13:10:53 2017]Self-test 10K passed!Self-test 10K passed!Self-test 15K passed!Self-test 15K passed![Fri Sep 01 13:17:16 2017]Self-test 16K passed!Self-test 16K passed!Self-test 10K passed!Self-test 10K passed![Fri Sep 01 13:24:28 2017]Self-test 12K passed!Self-test 12K passed!Self-test 16K passed!Self-test 16K passed![Fri Sep 01 13:30:19 2017]Self-test 8K passed!Self-test 8K passed!Self-test 12K passed!Self-test 12K passed![Fri Sep 01 13:35:33 2017]Self-test 15K passed!Self-test 15K passed!
    Code:
    V24OptionsConverted=1WGUID_version=2StressTester=1UsePrimenet=0MinTortureFFT=8MaxTortureFFT=16TortureMem=8TortureTime=5Left=26Top=26Right=1562Bottom=835W1=0 0 1518 145 0 -1 -1 -1 -1W2=0 145 1518 291 0 -1 -1 -1 -1W3=0 291 1518 437 0 -1 -1 -1 -1W4=0 437 1518 583 0 -1 -1 -1 -1W5=0 583 1518 729 0 -1 -1 -1 -1[PrimeNet]Debug=0
    Code:
    OldCpuSpeed=3577NewCpuSpeedCount=0NewCpuSpeed=0RollingAverage=1000RollingAverageIsFromV27=1ComputerGUID=4e72ad8a3ef771571c0336b3eca5ab43
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails dgsdgsdgds.jpg   dsggsddsg.jpg  
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  4.    01 Sep 2017 #24
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    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit

    When there are BSOD they can be caused by one or more of these: graphic drivers, software drivers, or hardware.

    This is the main problem: (see post #5)
    WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERROR (124)
    A fatal hardware error has occurred.GCACHEL2_ERR_ERR (Proc 2 Bank 8)

    The initial work up involves testing all computer hardware.
    The problem sometimes is found on stress testing.
    If that does not identify the problem there are additional steps.

    For the Prime 95 please post the maximum temperature and duration of testing.
    For Furmark please post the maximum temperature and duration of testing.
    For Memtest86+ version 5.01 please make sure it runs for at least 8 passes and the more the better.
    When it completes at least 8 passes please use a camera to take a picture and post an image into the thread.

    Download and install everything or everything search: voidtools
    It can be set to start on boot or start when you need it.
    It will index everything on internal and external drives.
    When you search you will enter a character and see instantaneous results.
    The more characters you enter the narrower the search results.

    With this tool you can look for any residual software on the computer.
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  5.    04 Sep 2017 #25
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    So the last 2 times it happened, it was at the exact moment of alt tabbing out of a game. Discord was running Im pretty sure during all the crashes, with or without any voice call active. I would try it without discord, but theres really no way to effectively recreate the blue screen so Im not sure how to test it.

    I also ran FurMark. I took screenshots using the programs screenshot button but I cant find the folder so in the meantime: Temperature went up to 72C and stayed there for a while and then 73C and stayed there for over 10 minutes, I turned off the test when I saw it was dipping back down to 72. Total duration of the test was little over 20 minutes. I can do a longer one if neccessary, its just that the warnings scared me that its not too healthy to run.
    BSOD MACHINE_CHECK_EXCEPTION during every game Attached Files
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  6.    04 Sep 2017 #26
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    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit

    In this Nvidia link the max temp is 94 degrees C: GeForce GTX 1070 Graphics Cards | NVIDIA GeForce

    These discuss graphic cards in general:
    NVIDIA GPU maximum operating temperature and overheating | NVIDIA (105 degrees C)
    FAQ: Acceptable Temperatures for Graphics Cards (95 - 98 degrees C)


    The testing time for Furmark graphic card testing was insufficient.
    Please repeat the testing so that the testing time is at least 45 minutes.
    The longer the testing time the more useful the test results.
    Again please abort testing as necessary monitoring the temperatures.

    What was the maximum temperature and testing time for Prime95 CPU testing?

    The mini dump when debugged did not display a definitive driver.
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  7.    05 Sep 2017 #27
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    Karlsruhe
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    There is only so much you can do with a bugcheck like this until it comes down to a faulty processor that will need to be replaced. Start from 1 and work downward:

    1. Ensure your temperatures are within standard and nothing's overheating. You can use a program such as Speccy if you'd like to monitor temps - http://www.piriform.com/speccy

    2. Clear your CMOS (or load optimized BIOS defaults) to ensure there's no improper BIOS setting -http://pcsupport.about.com/od/fixthe.../clearcmos.htm

    3. Ensure your BIOS is up to date.

    4. The only software conflict that can usually cause *9C or *124 bugchecks are OS to BIOS utilities from manufacturer's like Asus' AI Suite, AI Charger software, etc. If you have something like this software-wise, remove it ASAP (which I see you do have Asus software installed).

    5. If all of the above fail, the only left to do is replace your processor as it is faulty.
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  8.    05 Sep 2017 #28
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    zbrook

    I can run it again then
    The prime test says it in the first image, 5 hours 1 minute. Max temperature was 67C

    BSODHunter

    I cannot see any Asus software in "uninstall a program" not even Everything found any
    I did update my bios as one of the first steps I took and reset it.
    Its a shame it does look like I will need to replace the processor, upgrade it while Im at it.
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  9.    13 Sep 2017 #29
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    Karlsruhe
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    whats the status?
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  10.    15 Sep 2017 #30
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    Still getting the blue screens but I havent had the time to do more tests right now and I currently dont have the money to buy a new processor because its probably gonna fix the issue. Ill just have to put up with it for a while it seems
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