Windows 10: Constant BSODs with Ryzen and Windows 10 Creators

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  1.    28 Jul 2017 #81

    ???? SO maybe a clean install will help? If not a new motherboard.

    zbook said: View Post
    That was misbehaving driver #7.
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    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       28 Jul 2017 #82

    You had had a prior problem with windows driver verifier.
    Now you are doing a clean install (deleting partitions, formatting the drive, making an unallocated drive, and installing a new windows 10 version 1703 with the windows 10 iso.
    This is a good time to use windows driver verifier.

    If you are willing to give it another try we can go over the 3 methods to turn it off.
    It will be useful in years to come so its a good time to get accustomed to using it as it likely will come in handy for troubleshooting in the future.
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  3.    28 Jul 2017 #83

    Go ahead. It killed my system last time and apparently corrupted my windows installation. It scares me since the last time. So how do I run it safely? I am loading only the Winders drivers for everything. It will be a vanilla installation for a little bit. I am going to install office, itunes, firefox and chrome, that is all.

    zbook said: View Post
    You had had a prior problem with windows driver verifier.
    Now you are doing a clean install (deleting partitions, formatting the drive, making an unallocated drive, and installing a new windows 10 version 1703 with the windows 10 iso.
    This is a good time to use windows driver verifier.

    If you are willing to give it another try we can go over the 3 methods to turn it off.
    It will be useful in years to come so its a good time to get accustomed to using it as it likely will come in handy for troubleshooting in the future.
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  4.    28 Jul 2017 #84

    Ok, up and running on the Ryzen desktop now. Let us see if it is stable.
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    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       28 Jul 2017 #85

    Please don't install anything except windows default drivers.
    No applications, drivers, files, etc with 2 exceptions:
    Install Bluescreenview and Whocrashed
    http://www.resplendence.com/whocrashed
    Blue screen of death (STOP error) information in dump files.
    Driver Verifier-- tracking down a mis-behaving driver. - Microsoft Community

    BSOD Finding and fixing them - Microsoft Community




    Open administrative command prompt and type or copy and paste this command:
    shutdown /r /o /f /t 00
    It will reboot to the windows recovery or advanced troubleshooting menu.
    Navigate through the menu to startup options
    It will restart.
    Then choose option #6 safe mode with command prompt.
    Then type or copy and paste this command:
    shutdown /r
    It will reboot to the desktop

    The above step is the most critical step when using windows driver verifier.
    Getting to safe mode with command prompt will allow you to type:
    verifier /reset
    to turn off Windows driver verifier.
    In case safe mode with commmand prompt command verifier /reset does not turn off windows driver verifier navigate in the windows advanced trouble shooting menu to command prompt.
    This is where you will see X:\windows \system32\cmd.exe
    Enter the command: verifier /bootmode resetonbootfail to turn off windows driver verifier.


    Summary on how to turn off windows driver verifier using windows recovery or windows advanced troubleshooting menu:
    1) startup options (not startup repair) > select #6 safe mode with command prompt > type: verifier /reset
    2) command prompt or Administrator X: \Windows\system32\cmd.exe > type: verifier /bootmode /resetonbootfail
    3) if the above two methods fail use restore. Unfortunately restore most often leads to loss of the bsod minidump file and little progress is made in the troubleshooting

    To get comfortable using the windows recovery or windows advanced recovery menu open administrative command prompt and type or copy and paste: shutdown /r /o /f /t 00
    On reboot you will boot into the windows recovery or advanced troubleshooting menu.


    When a bsod occurs with windows driver verifier there will be a stop code. Typically it is driver verifier detected violation. Sometimes it will also display the misbehaving driver: *.sys
    If you see the driver on the bsod please record it.

    The system settings need to be modified to not automatically restart so that you have ample time to view the bsod window. Follow the settings in this link:
    BSOD Finding and fixing them - Microsoft Community

    Keyboard: win + r keys simultaneously > type or copy and paste: sysdm.cpl > click advanced tab > under startup and recover click settings > under system failure uncheck automatically restart


    See this link: BSOD Finding and fixing them - Microsoft Community: BSOD Finding and fixing them - Microsoft Community


    To setup and start using Windows driver verifier use the settings in this link:
    Driver Verifier-- tracking down a mis-behaving driver. - Microsoft Community


    Windows driver verifier is designed to repetitively produce bsod until all misbehaving are uninstalled or until it is turned off.
    Each time you return to the desktop you will run both Bluescreenview and Whocrashed.
    Then you will uninstall the misbehaving driver.
    You can restart windows driver verifier or replace the misbehaving driver.
    Either method should lead to the same result removing all misbehaving drivers.
    Some drivers or applications cannot work in some computer environments and alternative drivers or applications need to be used.

    This link has the method to turn on windows verifier with the custom settings:
    Driver Verifier-- tracking down a mis-behaving driver. - Microsoft Community

    Enable and Disable Driver Verifier in Windows 10 Windows 10 Performance Maintenance Tutorials
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  6.    28 Jul 2017 #86

    Looks pretty arcane, but ok. I printed it out so I have hard copy.
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    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       28 Jul 2017 #87

    Before you start using windows driver verifier create a brand new restore point.
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  •    28 Jul 2017 #88

    Thanks, I will.

    zbook said: View Post
    Before you start using windows driver verifier create a brand new restore point.
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  •    28 Jul 2017 #89

    Odd, before I reloaded Windows, the Aorus screen showed as loading, now the Windows icon shows as windows is loading. So when it is loading, and the little white circles are moving showing that windows in loading, it shows the MS icon instead of the Aorus eagle. It "feels" better somehow as well. Only stock Microsoft drivers are installed. iTunes is working well, Chrome and Firefox, the same. We shall see.
    Last edited by Murphcid; 28 Jul 2017 at 16:00.
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  •    30 Jul 2017 #90

    I am cautiously optimistic. So far, so good. I am walking around it like one would walk around a pissed off rattlesnake in your living room right now. However my daughter played several hours of Deus Ex: Mankind Divided, and Rise of the Tomb Raider. I replaced her controller with a Logitech F310 controller hooked into a rear USB port. I played Civilization V and Beyond Earth for a couple of hours. iTunes is working. I have added no other software, drivers, or games. Next week I will add Ghost Recon and The Division back in if it keeps behaving.
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