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  1.    01 May 2016 #1
    Join Date : Dec 2013
    Portsmouth Hampshire
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    Windows 10 x86 14383 Insider Pro and Core 10240

    BSODs starting Virtualbox VMs


    Hi experts!

    Oracle VM VirtualBox v5.0.20r106931 installed on build 14332 this week.

    BSODs when starting both custom and preconstructed VMs - in this case a lucid puppy linux 5.2.0 from Puppy Linux | VirtualBoxes - Free VirtualBox® Images as well as a elementaryos linux vdi made under an earlier windows10 (created Dec 28 2015)

    Virtualbox logs included in BSOD debug zipfile

    A few seconds after starting the VM, a BSOD occurs, which seemed to take a very long time to complete the WER process and reboot.

    Attachment 77748
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  2.    01 May 2016 #2
    Join Date : Jun 2015
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    Windows 10 Pro

    Hi Fafhrd,

    Unfortunately I see that with a few crashes no minidump has been saved.
    Code:
    Event[902]:
      Log Name: System
      Source: Microsoft-Windows-WER-SystemErrorReporting
      Date: 2016-04-29T18:32:19.707
      Event ID: 1005
      Task: N/A
      Level: Error
      Opcode: N/A
      Keyword: Classic
      User: N/A
      User Name: N/A
      Computer: DESKTOP-HBE5NTE
      Description: 
    Unable to produce a minidump file from the full dump file.
    
    Event[902]:
      Log Name: System
      Source: Microsoft-Windows-WER-SystemErrorReporting
      Date: 2016-04-29T18:32:19.707
      Event ID: 1005
      Task: N/A
      Level: Error
      Opcode: N/A
      Keyword: Classic
      User: N/A
      User Name: N/A
      Computer: DESKTOP-HBE5NTE
      Description: 
    Unable to produce a minidump file from the full dump file.
    When I take a look at the dump it immediately says memory corruption (I won't go into the why part), however as you're running the TP version it is difficult to say if it is a problem in the drivers of VirtualBox or the Memory Management of Windows.

    Is VirtualBox upgraded to the newest version or is it a clean install of it?
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  3.    01 May 2016 #3
    Join Date : Dec 2013
    Portsmouth Hampshire
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    Windows 10 x86 14383 Insider Pro and Core 10240
    Thread Starter

    Thanks for that axe0.

    It was a new download - I wasn't sure if It was an upgrade for the following reasons - I looked for Virtualbox in the start menu apps before, didn't see it and downloaded the installer and ran it, only afterwards I realised that it was entered on the apps list as "Oracle VM Virtualbox".

    I am not sure if Virtualbox survives an insider upgrade, or not. I believe that the Virtualbox installer itself removes prior installations on a fresh install, doesn't it?

    When I've finished with the laptop tonight I'll try to reproduce the BSOD and run the debug data collector again immediately after rebooting.

    It's not the end of the world - I only wanted to run a lightweight linux to use an old (equally lightweight) scanner, which I know runs fine without any installation under Puppy Linux. Curse that damn WDDM!
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  4.    01 May 2016 #4
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    Windows 10 Pro

    I believe that the Virtualbox installer itself removes prior installations on a fresh install, doesn't it?
    Normally installers do so to prevent problems, however usually a reboot is required to finish the process.
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  5.    01 May 2016 #5
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    Attachment 77782

    Well, it certainly had a reboot between reinstall and the latest BSOD this time!
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  6.    01 May 2016 #6
    Join Date : Apr 2014
    Space coast of Florida
    Posts : 5,382
    Windows 10 Pro X64 16299.19

    I looked at the latest dump just for grins. It says

    Code:
    BugCheck 3B, {c0000096, ffffcd801ba3f890, ffffcd8068c6ada0, 0}
    
    *** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for VMMR0.r0
    *** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for VMMR0.r0
    Probably caused by : memory_corruption
    Searching on the bugcheck 3B, I found several threads which ended up being a defective CPU. Problems with VT-x support.

    Sounds like a good time to run Prime95 and Memtest86+ (overnight).

    Attachment 77809
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  7.    02 May 2016 #7
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    Stress testing seem to have passed OK, will have to run Memtest tonight.

    Attachment 77824

    Cannot recall another BSOD since I got this Compaq Presario CQ57 in August 2012 with Win 7 Home >Win 8 Pro >Win 8 MCE, >Win 8.1 Pro > Win 10 (insider) Normally cool and steady, it's no speed demon though!
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  8.    02 May 2016 #8
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    Windows 10 Pro

    I don't believe a memory test would be necessary, but if you want to run it no problem

    Do you have another system with Windows 10 TP installed or know someone who does? So we can test if this problem is due to VirtualBox or a bug in the memory management. With a bug in the memory management it doesn't necessarily have to crash at the other system too with the same software, with a problem in VirtualBox it does which I believe it is even though you're running the unstable version of Windows.
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  9.    02 May 2016 #9
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    Not another with x64.

    I have another system with 14332 x86 installed (only 2GB RAM), so not really enough to test a VM in Virtualbox, but I have another partition on this laptop with 10586 x86 running, which I can try as you suggest.

    I can also upgrade this x86 to 14332 on the laptop to do a more direct comparison afterwards.

    However, a busy UK Bank Holiday May Fayre today so I might prefer to do my testing in the beer tent instead! Not a good Idea to take the laptop along.
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  10.    02 May 2016 #10
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    Keep us posted on how it is going
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