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  1.    05 Feb 2016 #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by axe0 View Post
    Good

    Let me know if you encounter another bluescreen.
    Thank you for your time and effort... so no more Kaspersky Internet Security for me?
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  2.    05 Feb 2016 #32
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    so no more Kaspersky Internet Security for me?
    Until your system is garanteed stable again no Kaspersky.

    If you want Kaspersky again I would suggest to install it again and forward the memory.dmp file which is the kernel dump (the dump that contains all relevant data for debugging the crash completely) and other data they would need so they can fix the problem.
    This is however risky, it doesn't always turn out that if you reproduce the problem the system returns to a stable position when removing the cause.
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  3.    24 Feb 2016 #33
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    Okay, just got the same random BSOD =(.... without Kaspersky on my PC
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  4.    24 Feb 2016 #34
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    There are some things that should be done, like updating the BIOS, but it isn't possible because your motherboard supports driver updates till windows 7.

    Keep me posted on the situation, besides of updating drivers for the mouse and keyboard there is not much that can be done currently.
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  5.    05 Mar 2016 #35
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    Aaaaand.... "another one"

    Keyboard and Mouse drivers were installed by Windows, I guess. I wasn't installing any drivers since windows install.
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  6.    05 Mar 2016 #36
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    Since I have no info about the crashes, I can't anticipate on it and provide better suggestions:



    Kernell Power Even ID 41 Category 63 Diagnostics Test Kernell Power Even ID 41 Category 63
     Clean boot

    Please try the following:
    • Open taskmanager
      • Go to the tab startup
      • disable everything

    • Search msconfig and open it
      • Go to the tab services
      • Check 'hide microsoft services'
      • Uncheck all other services
      • Click apply and click ok

    • Reboot if asked

    See if the problem persist, if the problem does not persist enable in the startup tab in taskmanager 1 item and in the services tab in msconfig also 1 service, reboot and see if the problem persist. Keep doing this until you find the culprit or there is nothing left.
    If the problem still persist, try booting in safe mode and see if the problem still persist
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  7.    16 Jun 2016 #37
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    Okay... a little update on this issue. I think I figure it out. Joking ... All the credits to MR.
    Unbootable whoever that is.

    In Device Manager I unchecked "Allowed the computer to turn off this device to save power" for Network Adapters, Mouse, and Keyboard under Power Management tab. Now when I send my PC to sleep mode it goes to sleep next second instead of 20 to 60 seconds(like it was before), it goes back up in a second(power button) like it supposed to be. I read on the internet about it, some people say Microsoft f...up Power Saving code for Desktop and Laptop, this is why when power saving is allowed on those devices your PC will randomly produce BSOD and restart itself.

    There is also 2 .bat files you might need to create and run:
    source:
    No kp41

    How to avoid Kernel Power id 41 problem

    by Unbootable from 2012/09/09

    This is my heuristic solution for the kp41 in Windows 7.
    After 7 months study, now I've found its mastermind.

    My environment:

    HW = DELL vostro 230s (Slim Tower Desktop), Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU E3400 @ 2.60GHz [dual cpu], memory 2GB, internal hdd 250GB 2devices
    (Motherboard: made in Dell Inc. , BIOS: made in Dell Inc. , Graphics card: None)
    OS = Windows 7 Professional (32 bit), SP1

    My hypothesis:

    The sleep and hibernate issues are the same origin as the kp41 issue.
    --- Noise sensibility problem? (OS coding miss)



    Indispensable Settings:

    1. - Changing Device Manager settings -

    Network Adapters, Keyboard, Mice and other pointing devices,
    For each device,
    Click the Power Management tab,
    and remove the check next to "Allow this device to wake the computer" option.
    ( --- includes "WOL [Wake On LAN] inhibit" )

    i.e.
    ☑ Allow this device to wake the computer
    ⇓ force to change
    ☐ Allow this device to wake the computer


    2. - Changing Power Option settings -

    2.1 Never sleep/ stop

    Control Panel, System and Security, and then click Power Options,
    |--- Open "Sleep" item, then, set the distance of time into the sleeping. (i.e. "Never sleep")

    "Sleep after" Never (or, Set 0 [ = ∞] Minutes )

    "Hibernate after" Never (or, Set 0 [ = ∞] Minutes )

    |--- Open "Hard disk" item, then, set "Never stop".

    "Turn off hard disk after" Never (or, Set 0 [ = ∞] Minutes )


    2.2 Untouchable battery

    Desktop, please not to touch the battery options for note-PC.
    Set disable all battery options by using POWERCFG DOS command.

    Please execute the next 2 batch jobs q.bat and Battery.bat.
    (Copy&Paste next each text image to the Notepad, and save them as "q.bat" and "Battery.bat" under your temporary folder. q.bat generates the verification file named q.txt. Battery.bat also Battery.txt)

    - Active Plan watching - batch job:
    Rem // This is q.bat
    powercfg -L > q.txt
    echo ================== >>q.txt
    powercfg -q >> q.txt
    pause


    - Active Plan, Battery part changing - batch job:
    (--- Set, Action = "Do Nothing", threshold level = "0%" [ here, 0% intends that anytime is in safety-level.] )
    Rem // This is Battery.bat

    powercfg -q SCHEME_CURRENT SUB_BATTERY >Battery.txt
    rem before image
    echo ------------ >>Battery.txt

    POWERCFG -SetAcValueIndex SCHEME_CURRENT SUB_BATTERY BATACTIONCRIT 0
    POWERCFG -SetDcValueIndex SCHEME_CURRENT SUB_BATTERY BATACTIONCRIT 0
    rem in critcal, DC Do nothing
    POWERCFG -SetAcValueIndex SCHEME_CURRENT SUB_BATTERY BATLEVELLOW 0
    POWERCFG -SetDcValueIndex SCHEME_CURRENT SUB_BATTERY BATLEVELLOW 0
    POWERCFG -SetAcValueIndex SCHEME_CURRENT SUB_BATTERY BATLEVELCRIT 0
    POWERCFG -SetDcValueIndex SCHEME_CURRENT SUB_BATTERY BATLEVELCRIT 0
    POWERCFG -SetAcValueIndex SCHEME_CURRENT SUB_BATTERY bcded951-187b-4d05-bccc-f7e51960c258 0
    POWERCFG -SetDcValueIndex SCHEME_CURRENT SUB_BATTERY bcded951-187b-4d05-bccc-f7e51960c258 0
    POWERCFG -SetAcValueIndex SCHEME_CURRENT SUB_BATTERY BATACTIONLOW 0
    POWERCFG -SetDcValueIndex SCHEME_CURRENT SUB_BATTERY BATACTIONLOW 0
    POWERCFG -SetAcValueIndex SCHEME_CURRENT SUB_BATTERY f3c5027d-cd16-4930-aa6b-90db844a8f00 0
    POWERCFG -SetDcValueIndex SCHEME_CURRENT SUB_BATTERY f3c5027d-cd16-4930-aa6b-90db844a8f00 0

    powercfg -q SCHEME_CURRENT SUB_BATTERY >>Battery.txt
    rem after image
    pause

    Story: Win7 Desktop logic sometimes checks the Battery Level status, and falls in a shutdown maze.
    ---- Is it true? (--- Windows 7's behavior is very odd.)




    【 Here, Effectivity percentage: 1 = 45%, 2.1 = 5%, 2.2 = 50% (Not Evaluated)
    or
    May be "2.2 = 100%" --- please evaluate! 】

    Precise evaluation result: 1 and 2.2 are needed. And, 2.1 is no need.



    Comment related 2.2 :

    - When the threshold level = "100%" were specified, kp41 happened easily.
    Repeatability --- Yes.
    My PC is Desktop (i.e. not Notebook, No battery. ).

    What means this fact?
    My answer: (I hate to say) There are bugs in Battery management. The distinguish of Desktop and Notebook is confused.

    --- It looks as if Desktop runs on the coding part for Notebook.




    cf. Parent page1, Parent page2 (written in Japanese. If you are polyglot, please read.)
    cf. Resolving Problems with Sleep and Hibernate Modes (Windows 7) ( HP Customer Care )
    cf. Windows 7 - Power Plan Settings - Change ( Windows 7 Forums)
    cf. Powercfg Command-Line Options
    powercfg -setacvalueindex Scheme_GUID Sub_GUID Setting_GUID SettingIndex

    [ Sets a value associated with a specified power setting while the computer is powered by AC power.]
    [ -setdcvalueindex ---- for DC power]
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