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  1.    09 Jan 2016 #1
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    Somewhat uncommon BSOD


    Hi, I've had these BSODs since my updated build a while back and could never figure out the cause so I'll give this site a shot. The BSODs have tended to be about once or twice a month, though when I was testing set sticks, it's could be a little longer. Recently it's happened a few times this month. Originally I got 2 sets of corsair vengeance ram (4x4 GB) and did a memtest, one of the sticks was faulty so I sent it back, the set I got in return also was faulty so I also had to send that back. I then ran 10+ passes overnight on each stick in different slots which came out clean for all of them. I did redo a memtest a lot later on but that appeared to crash a couple of times when I tried it. I may have tried another version of memtest that I believe showed an error but like I say, it came clean a while ago and after trying to debug it for so long, I gave up since it was a pain not finding anything and the BSODs weren't too common when the system is up over half the day. I have during the time reinstalled windows many times, though keeping some programs on another HDD. I used to use an SSD, but for some reason after updating my GPU, it seemed to corrupt my installation and keep freezing/crashing my system even after several reinstallations of windows so I no longer use it.

    I do usually have firefox, chrome, Neverwinter open at the main screen (an MMO), 2 instances of glyph (1 sandboxed, though when the bsods first happened I didn't have it) and sometimes another game running. Though I haven't paid too much attention to temps, I haven't seen any concern. My drivers should be updated and I have tried XMP on and off and also slightly bumping up my ram voltages as suggested in a much older thread on another site with no luck. I do no overclock anything since I didn't feel it was wise if things weren't completely stable. If you can help find the issue then that'd be awesome and appreciated. If not then that's also fine (though it does suck to have felt knowledgeable in computing and never finding a solution to a self build (my 2nd one)). Lastly there's been no common trigger than I've found causing the BSODs.

    One annoying thing is that because the BSOD is uncommon, it's also hard to know whether it has actually been solved...
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  2.    09 Jan 2016 #2
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    warning   Warning
    Programs that claim to update your drivers install either the wrong or corrupted drivers.
    If you have installed any driver with Driver Booster 3, please remove them as it may cause trouble.


    Please try following
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  3.    10 Jan 2016 #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by axe0 View Post
    warning   Warning
    Programs that claim to update your drivers install either the wrong or corrupted drivers.
    If you have installed any driver with Driver Booster 3, please remove them as it may cause trouble.


    Please try following
    Thanks for taking the time to look into it. I did use driver booster since installing in previous windows 7 installations and upgrading the drivers from my motherboard website still gave me bsods and since a few websites mentioned it, I figured I'd try it out in case it could update something I was missing. There are 2 things I can't do though. There's no windows 10 usb driver and it won't let me install it, and the same goes for my Creative driver for my soundblaster Audigy (though it is an old card that I actually don't know how it compares to my onboard). I did once try removing my Audigy (though didn't remove the drivers) to see if it gave BSODs still on a w7 build, but it kept doing it. I'll also mention that I didn't install the latest drivers specifically for my windows 10 installation from the mobo site, though did have the same issues for years with latest windows 7 drivers. The drivers I could update, I have now done.
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  4.    10 Jan 2016 #4
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    I would then suggest you remove the USB device and card for at least the time of troubleshooting.
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  5.    10 Jan 2016 #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by axe0 View Post
    I would then suggest you remove the USB device and card for at least the time of troubleshooting.
    Sorry, could you clarify? I did have usb extension that came with the motherboard, but didn't have a front slot in my case to fit it so the only usb 3 devices I have are from my case and mobo. So do I still need to do anything? Was the card you were referring to my sound card?
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  6.    10 Jan 2016 #6
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    You say there are no W10 drivers for the USB, best is to disconnect it for improved stability.

    I'm not sure, I need to check it again what I'll do later when I can.
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  7.    10 Jan 2016 #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by axe0 View Post
    You say there are no W10 drivers for the USB, best is to disconnect it for improved stability.

    I'm not sure, I need to check it again what I'll do later when I can.
    Indeed, so I'm to disconnect the connector to the usb 3 ports for the case? I don't have a separate usb 3.0 card connected is what I was trying to clarify.
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  8.    10 Jan 2016 #8
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    The Intel USB driver is from 2012, no garantee it works as expected, but until it gives problems you could have the connector connected

    Was the card you were referring to my sound card?
    I was referring to the Creative soundcard yes.
    There are 3 kind of drivers known for causing a lot bluescreens, in order:
    1. Display drivers
    2. Network drivers
    3. Sound drivers
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  9.    10 Jan 2016 #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by axe0 View Post
    The Intel USB driver is from 2012, no garantee it works as expected, but until it gives problems you could have the connector connected


    I was referring to the Creative soundcard yes.
    There are 3 kind of drivers known for causing a lot bluescreens, in order:
    1. Display drivers
    2. Network drivers
    3. Sound drivers
    Ok thanks, I just wanted to be clear. The sound card was something I questioned with it being older and not as supported nowadays, but with giving it a trial for removing it and getting a bsod a while back I decided to just keep it in. There's one last thing. How important is it to remove truecrypt? Ideally I'd want to keep it since even though I don't often use it or have it loaded and isn't supported anymore, it is still a convenient away to lock and unlock non critical files. But if it's important for testing stability I'll remove it, I'd just need to spend time to sort through my files.

    Unfortunately in previous tests a while back, I've had up to 5 weeks without a BSOD or something like that. So hopefully it'll be a while before I can thank you fully, otherwise I'll let you know if another BSOD happens ):.
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  10.    10 Jan 2016 #10
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    It is pretty important to remove TrueCrypt for stability, a program that hasn't been updated in at least 1 year and 3/4 months causes problems on a newer OS.
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