Windows 10: Random BSODs and freezes on W10 Pro x64

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  1. Posts : 12
    Windows 10 Professional x64
       12 Dec 2015 #1

    Random BSODs and freezes on W10 Pro x64


    I have to write this AGAIN so I'll just shorten it: had W8, W7 twice and W10, all of them with BSODs and freezes.
    ZIP is here Attachment 53275 (2 months with Win 8, one year with the first w7 install and one year with the second, using w10 since day one)

    BSODs used to be very frequent on W8 and my first W7 install, somewhat rare on my second W7 install and slightly more common on W10. Freezes started appearing on my second W7 install and carried on to W10 (fresh install, different HDD and install media)

    The most common now is WHEA_Uncorrectable_Error, Windows doesn't even want to create a Minidump, it just says it's trying to create it but it never does, rebooting after 1 min.
    Freezes are also random but present. It's jusually 1-2, maybe 3 once a week or sometimes I can go two weeks without a freeze, just like I did right now. Had 2 faulty dimms on my W8 and two W7 installs, replaced them with another (unknowingly) faulty pair, sent it back and got a new working RAM Kit. Same for PSUS (WHEA was already a thing on the W7 installs and I went through another two PSUS)

    RAM: Good, ran Memtest for an entire day, no errors.
    CPU: Good, ran Prime95 for another day, no errors, max temp is 58-59C.
    PSUs: Good, otherwise it'd just shut down like the previous faulty one (not the original one) did.
    GPU: Good ? Never had it do anything weird
    Motherboard: Uuh.. good? I have no idea honestly, BIOS is up to date and there are no faulty RAM slots.
    sfc /scannow and chkdsk /r (or /f) do nothing and yes, both my HDDs are in perfect health.

    I also found out that the USB key I used for W8 and W7 is a bad drive. Not sure about the W10 one.
    (Installed W10 thanks to the Media Creation Tool on DAY ONE, that's probably the source of all my problems)

    Everyone I know just points to a bad/broken Windows installation and I'm starting to think it's true.

    P.S. all this happens both with and without overclocks.
    Last edited by Xeraser; 12 Dec 2015 at 15:01.
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  2. Posts : 12,153
    Windows 10 Pro
       13 Dec 2015 #2

    Hi Xeraser,

    I'm extremely sorry for the huge delay.
    There aren't many people, we have had a steady stream of new threads for the past few weeks and I was very busy with school.
    Unfortunately I didn't respond to your other thread, because I thought you already were receiving help. At least it looked like that because your thread had replies. We usually only reply to new threads that haven't gotten a reply yet, the unanswered thread list.

    I've looked at the event logs, there aren't as many bluescreen crashes as I had actually expected and only 1 dump hasn't been created. The bluescreens are too infrequent for a bad installation and hardware problem, unless some device is once in a while connected.
    For the dump problem, please make sure your pc is configured for small dump files How to configure minidump | Windows 10 tutorial

    For improving system stability,
    Please uninstall ASUS AI Suite II, this software is known for causing bluescreens.
    Please uninstall Daemon tools, Daemon tools uses some drivers that are very unstable.
    Please revert any overclock back to stock if anything is currently overclocked

    Please disable fast startup
    Fast Startup - Turn On or Off in Windows 10 - Windows 10 Forums
    Code:
    Event[12524]:  Log Name: System
      Source: Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Boot
      Date: 2015-11-22T15:07:11.735
      Event ID: 29
      Task: N/A
      Level: Error
      Opcode: Info
      Keyword: N/A
      User: S-1-5-18
      User Name: NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM
      Computer: Xeraser-i5
      Description: 
    Windows failed fast startup with error status 0xC0000001.
    Regarding MemTest, what memtest exactly did you perform?
    • MemTest86+,
    • MemTest86,
    • windows memory diagnostics,
    • other?


    Please fill in your system specs
    Please follow this tutorial and download the tool. The tool will give you detailed information about your system specs, please fill in your system specs more completely including PSU, cooling system and other used stuff.
    How to fill in your system specs:

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  3. Posts : 12
    Windows 10 Professional x64
    Thread Starter
       13 Dec 2015 #3

    I can't uninstall AI Suite as I need it for both monitoring and overclocking.
    Uninstalled Daemon Tools and reverted to stock clocks.

    Hybernation and Fast Startup are already disabled.

    Currently updating specs.

    And I used Memtest86+, the free one.

    And yeah, there aren't many cause I'm mostly getting WHEA_Uncorrectable_Error now and it always fails to create a minidump. (I also had Minidumps disabled at some point for some reason)

    And no, no one replied to my other post. Literally no one.
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  4. Posts : 12,153
    Windows 10 Pro
       13 Dec 2015 #4

    I strongly recommend to remove AI Suite and do not overclock anything, this is only for the time of troubleshooting

    Please try booting in safe mode and see if the problem persists.
    In safe mode, only the minimum is loaded which offers an easy way of splitting the problem into hardware or software.
    You can't do much in safe mode, because a lot isn't or can't be loaded.
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  5. Posts : 12
    Windows 10 Professional x64
    Thread Starter
       13 Dec 2015 #5

    axe0 said: View Post
    I strongly recommend to remove AI Suite and do not overclock anything, this is only for the time of troubleshooting

    Please try booting in safe mode and see if the problem persists.
    In safe mode, only the minimum is loaded which offers an easy way of splitting the problem into hardware or software.
    You can't do much in safe mode, because a lot isn't or can't be loaded.
    Updated specs section.
    And yeah, looks like I'll have to spend some time in safe mode although pretty much everyone I know is pointing to a bad Windows installation (seems very likely due to issues with the windows store and some other things including updates failing to install over and over) I'll do it once I get another freeze or BSOD.

    P.S. the BSODs that I get are more or less the ones you just saw. (used to get them very frequently on my first w7 install, especially bad pool header/caller, page fault, etc)
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  6. Posts : 12,153
    Windows 10 Pro
       13 Dec 2015 #6

    I understood you have installed Windows a few times because you replaced the hard drive?
    I'm pretty sure one would be familiair with the installation and knows what to do when installing Windows a few times.
    From what device have you installed Windows? USB, cd/dvd?
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  7. Posts : 12
    Windows 10 Professional x64
    Thread Starter
       13 Dec 2015 #7

    axe0 said: View Post
    I understood you have installed Windows a few times because you replaced the hard drive?
    I'm pretty sure one would be familiair with the installation and knows what to do when installing Windows a few times.
    From what device have you installed Windows? USB, cd/dvd?
    I installed Windows 8, tried it and went back to Windows 7. Reinstalled it a year later as well. All with the same USB drive, same ISO and same HDD. The USB drive and HDD I installed W10 on are two different ones. (the old one is the WD500 one in my specs)

    Installed W10 on day one from a probably corrupted ISO downloaded from the Media Creation Tool. ISO was probably bad and the USB drive was probably bad too. (the one I used for W7 was bad although I only discovered that recently)

    If I may add, I've NEVER had any of these problems on my Archlinux installation. (Just had it freeze with the very first batch of bad ram I had, hadn't tried with the second but it runs fine on this one)
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  8. Posts : 12,153
    Windows 10 Pro
       13 Dec 2015 #8

    You can always try a repair install with a working USB if you'd like
    It'll be very unlikely that the ISO becomes corrupted or something.
    Repair Install Windows 10 with an In-place Upgrade - Windows 10 Forums
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  9. Posts : 12
    Windows 10 Professional x64
    Thread Starter
       13 Dec 2015 #9

    axe0 said: View Post
    You can always try a repair install with a working USB if you'd like
    It'll be very unlikely that the ISO becomes corrupted or something.
    Repair Install Windows 10 with an In-place Upgrade - Windows 10 Forums
    If it's truly a bad installation I'm just gonna install all over again. I used to reinstall W7 every six months on every PC I've ever owned up until I built this PC.

    Lazyness got to me.
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  10. Posts : 12,153
    Windows 10 Pro
       13 Dec 2015 #10

    With everything I have read that you already have done, it looks to me more like the motherboard.
    But the only way to test the motherboard is by replacing it.

    A good way to get an indication of the motherboard being the cause without replacing is safe mode.
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