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  1.    03 Oct 2015 #1
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    BSOD playing GTA V (related to ntkrnlmp.exe)


    I looked online before posting here and I found many things that could be the issue. I will list everything I did, in attempt to fix this issue:

    - Restoring the system to a point before Windows 10 update (KB3093266)
    - Checking BIOS settings for anything unusual
    - Cleaning the registry with CCleaner
    - Scanning the system for viruses with AVAST (boot time scan as well)
    - Performing a clean install of the Display Driver
    - Running a memtest86 (I stopped at 46%, because I am almost 100% certain its not memory related)
    - Ran chkdsk on the console with no apparent errors
    - Looked in the memory dump file for the problem and found the following:
    - (Update) I ran driver verifier test and it gave me different BSOD screens (i was in a loop for a bit)

    "BugCheck 3B, {c0000005, fffff8017b0e8ca2, ffffd0002318cbe0, 0}

    Page 12cfb3 not present in the dump file. Type ".hh dbgerr004" for details
    Probably caused by : ntkrnlmp.exe ( nt!KxWaitForLockOwnerShipWithIrql+12 )"

    I searched this and concluded it was my display driver, however after a clean install, the problem persists.


    This started today when I started up GTA V. After about 5-10 minutes, the BSOD appeared. One thing that I thought was the problem was that I had installed MalwareBytes Free version about an hour or less before I started playing GTA V. I searched online and read that "running two anti virus softwares can cause this BSOD. (I had AVAST installed before MalwareBytes, and I still have AVAST installed currently).

    As a result I uninstalled MalwareBytes, but the problem persists. Im not overclocking anything at all and I'd really want to avoid having to reinstall Windows. If there's any other information I can provide to help, let me know.

    Attachment 40936

    Here's the new memory dump file after the driver verifier test:
    Attachment 40952

    Also i must say, that when I installed MalwareBytes, It ran a scan after installation and found a list of things to fix (mostly PUPs). So i went ahead and clicked "fix all" and now i think i may have not carefully looked at what was on the list. Could it have deleted an important file, which is causing the BSOD?

    Update: I was looking through the first memory dump i had from my system and found that Realtek was listed in it under "Process Name." So i went ahead and updated the driver for it just to make sure. And I also saw that "Turbo Core Mode" was actually enabled in the BIOS by default. So i went ahead and disabled it. So far I didnt have anymore BSODs, but its probably too soon to say that. I also attempted running GTA V and so far, everything is ok and I dont really see any problems. Although I'd still like to find out the problem for the previous BSOD, because I didnt have any problems until today. Thank you for taking the time to look at this, I know its not easy figuring out these problems, but im trying my best to give as much info as possible.
    Last edited by DavyJones; 03 Oct 2015 at 21:00. Reason: Adding more info
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  2.    04 Oct 2015 #2
    Join Date : Jun 2015
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    Windows 10 Pro

    Hi DavyJones,

    Welcome to the 10forums.

    Please move some files from the E partition to increase the free space to at least 10-15%.
    Every partition needs at least 10-15% free space so Windows can do its thing in the background.
    warning   Warning
    Less free space could cause BSOD's


    From the few crashes I have checked, the cause is Avast.
    Please uninstall Avast using the uninstall instructions
    Code:
    *** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for aswSnx.sys
    *** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for aswSnx.sys
    FYI, Malwarebytes is an Anti-Malware program which can be run side by side with another Anti-Virus program.
    Malwarebytes doesn't delete important files.
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  3.    04 Oct 2015 #3
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    I don't think the space is a problem because I have about 70GB free on the drive that holds Windows. However, I will go ahead and uninstall Avast. Once I uninstall it, should I reinstall it or find a better Antivirus?
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  4.    04 Oct 2015 #4
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    Stay for a while with Windows Defender, WD is the most stabilized of them.

    Your Seagate Backup drive is the hard drive I meant.
    But I am not sure if an external (assuming it is an external hard drive) could cause a crash too.
    Code:
    Drive    E:
    Description    Local Fixed Disk
    Compressed    No
    File System    NTFS
    Size    931.51 GB (1,000,203,833,344 bytes)
    Free Space    57.49 GB (61,726,347,264 bytes)
    Volume Name    Seagate Backup Plus Drive
    Volume Serial Number    FEDB9672
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  5.    04 Oct 2015 #5
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    Thank you for the fast response on my issue. As for the drive space, I backup some files right before I did the driver verifier. That's why it has only 50GB left. It can't be the cause because when the issue started I had about 120GB on that drive.
    I just uninstalled avast and am now updating Windows Defender. Since the Cpu turbo mode might not be the problem I will go ahead and re enable it to auto (the default).
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  6.    04 Oct 2015 #6
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    Please keep the CPU turbo mode disabled while troubleshooting.
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  7.    04 Oct 2015 #7
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    Ok I'll keep turbo mode disabled. Right now I'm running a scan with Windows Defender just to make sure I don't have any suspicious files in my system.
    Also should I update the system? I have a Windows update available (KB3093266). It's the one that I rolled backed when I did a system restore previously.
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  8.    04 Oct 2015 #8
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    As it is a cumulative update, cumulative updates usually fix bugs from other updates, I would recommend it yes.
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  9.    07 Oct 2015 #9
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    Thread Starter

    Alright, so after a few days with no BSOD occurrences, one manages to show up and it was really random. I was playing SOMA, which is not resource intense or anything of the sort. Maybe it could've been the game, because the timing was perfect. (As i reached in game for an object, the computer froze and then boom...a BSOD came up.) I generated a zip file with the logs and stuff and attached it below.
    Attachment 41620

    Extra info:
    - I did not have CPU Turbo Mode enabled
    - Avast is not installed on the computer anymore
    - I wasn't running anything else in the background (that I know of)
    - The sound gave out completely when it happened and made a loud buzz/hmm sound (headphones)
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  10.    08 Oct 2015 #10
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    Can you use the mouse and keyboard without razer software?
    Razer software and ASUS software are known for causing BSOD's, but I would think you cannot remove the ASUS software.
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