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  1.    06 Oct 2015 #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by axe0 View Post
    The 3.3, 5 and 12v can indeed vary, that is why it is good to have those values max around 3% or 5% of their values, depending on what the manufacturer of the mainboard says about it.
    @copracr, please post a photo of these values.
    OP has same problem with a 650W and 750W PSU and a 17 Watt CPU/IGPU unless he got those PSU's out a dumpster or new Egg refurb it's a long shot both are bad . (ofc not imopossible ) but if they run in another PC or mainboard they are probably fine.

    OTOH bad drivers can sometimes cause re boots or even totally hose the OS altogether .

    EDIT if I'm reading your system specs above my wattage figures are going to be off ☻☻
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  2.    06 Oct 2015 #22
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    Yes indeed, but usually it would cause a BSOD.
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  3.    06 Oct 2015 #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by axe0 View Post
    Yes indeed, but usually it would cause a BSOD.
    Looks like I was reading your system specs in the example you posted .... my bad .

    OTOH If the OP's system specs are current he's going to need more than 200 watts but 650 should be fine with the system in his specs and an unintended re boot can certainly point to HDWE or (sometimes) software ☻

    I wonder if the OP has a DVM or another box to try out the PSU's in .

    I'm still thinking two bad PSU are a lonsgshot although not impossible but if they worked on the old MB and the symptom showed only on the new configutration ?
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  4.    06 Oct 2015 #24
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    That is just a real example of how it could be done

    With replacing components, it is always best to check if everything is as it should be.
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  5.    06 Oct 2015 #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by axe0 View Post
    Yes indeed, but usually it would cause a BSOD.
    Sure but :

    FWIW I had a bad sound driver totally hose a Windows 10 Insider test build about 3 days in when Windows decided to update it , a clean install with the previous drivers I installed at first fixed it still using them on 10547 and RTM in a dual boot configuration on this box . You could be right though it could be HDWE a DVM would be some help at least on the PSU rails .

    Maybe the PSU has more Rails and unused connectors he could try also ?
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  6.    06 Oct 2015 #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by blutos cousin View Post
    Sure but :

    FWIW I had a bad sound driver totally hose a Windows 10 Insider test build about 3 days in when Windows decided to update it , a clean install with the previous drivers I installed at first fixed it stil using them on 10547 and RTM in a dual boot configuration on this box .
    No offense, but do you mind writing full words?
    I don't always understand the abbreviations.
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  7.    06 Oct 2015 #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by axe0 View Post
    No offense, but do you mind writing full words?
    I don't always understand the abbreviations.
    Sure no problem , PSU is "power supply unit" and FWIW is " for what it's worth" and DVM is "digital volt ohm meter "and VR is "voltage regulator " and RTM as it applies here is " Windows 10 release to manufacture build "or the Windows 10 versions outside of the Windows 10 Insider test builds .
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  8.    06 Oct 2015 #28
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    I am aware of most of them, like PSU and DVM, but not all
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  9.    06 Oct 2015 #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by axe0 View Post
    The 3.3, 5 and 12v can indeed vary, that is why it is good to have those values max around 3% or 5% of their values, depending on what the manufacturer of the mainboard says about it.
    @copracr, please post a photo of these values.
    It also reboots when playing Pandora through firefox. Netflix reboots on edge, firefox, and chrome. VLC reboots as often as WMP.

    Here's a screenshot attached. I watched these values in another program while running Skyrim and they weren't any different. I replaced the PSU anyways because Nvidia said 650w was too small to run their 650ti. I upgraded to the 750ti in case it was the GPU though
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  10.    06 Oct 2015 #30
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    AFAIK The 750 GTI is a 60 Watt max TDP card at full tilt and your CPU ( AMD Phenom ( II X6 1045T) if your specs are curent maybe 95 watts at full tilt , a Hdd or two aint nothing neithter is an ODD or the Mothrboard and a few fans a 650W PSU should be fine .

    OTOH a 750W PSU cant hurt. I think you have a driver problem or an underlying windows problem or MB issue (although I think that would be last thing to consider since it othewise loads windows .The CPU votages seem OK .....you running a test build or RTM , Overclocking &,volting + or - @ the CPU .

    OTOH in your image I'm not sure about the 12v, 5v and 3.3 v rail, voltages they could be off if thats what they are showing if it's acurate and I'm reading it correctly , that could be bad VR's on the mainboard or a PSU sagging or a bad ground or cold solder joint somewhere maybe a something in the wave soldering tank when they made the board ?

    These are some of the CPU electrical specs on the CPU :
    Electrical / Thermal parameters
    V core ? 1.075V - 1.375V (at rated frequency)
    1.225V - 1.425V (Turbo Core mode)
    0.975V - 1.175V (Minimum performance state)
    V NorthBridge 1.05V - 1.175V
    Maximum operating temperature ? 55C - 71C
    Thermal Design Power ? 95 Watt
    Notes on AMD Phenom II X6 1045T
    • On socket AM2+/AM3 platforms in the minimum performance state the processor runs at 800 MHz core voltage and has TDP 47.1 Watt

    [1] - These characteristics were measured on a single CPU, and they can vary slightly for other processors with the same model number
    http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K10/AM...5TWFK6DGR.html



    New Insider build is coming out probably thurs /friday give or take it might fix your stuff . OTOH an in place update probably wont change your drivers . If you can interrupt the download before the Windows update starts I've read you could get an image of that new test build for a clean install there is a tutorial here about that .
    Meanwhile I would get some fresh drivers from nvidia and realtec and try that then a few cold beers after you run the drivers in and call us in the morning or later ☻☻

    Oh can you post some event viewer critical error and application fault logs like the VLC and sound and pandora or whatever browser or application fails ?
    Last edited by blutos cousin; 06 Oct 2015 at 19:06.
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