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  1.    06 Sep 2015 #71
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    okay. I read the site and it says 80c and tomshardware says the same.
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  2.    06 Sep 2015 #72
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    Carl, I don't know for sure, but I believe 100C. But, yours being a little older and suspecting problems with it anyway, I would try to keep it below 80C.
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  3.    06 Sep 2015 #73
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    OK, then I would lower that a little for the reasons stated above.
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  4.    06 Sep 2015 #74
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    The alarm went off right away. I've spent most of this time just figuring out how to read the output. I thought this was a "CPU" test but realized it was a Graphics card test.
    The log and the screen are completely different. I"m attaching both
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  5.    06 Sep 2015 #75
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    Thinking about this, there could be a problem with my video card, which could be the reason for my screen going blank on the seagtools and memtest86+, but then behind that there still might be a memory or motherboard issue, which is causing the BSOD's.
    hmmm.... interesting.
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  6.    06 Sep 2015 #76
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    Was the fan on your card turning?

    Code:
    MAL]#00000042#Fri Aug 28 10:58:50 2015#  - Fan speed: -1%
    <->[NORMAL]#00000043#Fri Aug 28 10:58:50 2015#  - Fan speed: -1 RPM
    If you had the log set for 60 seconds, it didn't run through the test it would seem. Why did it get that high without you shutting it down first? Do you have on board graphics? If so, completely remove the card and connect the monitor to the on board graphics. If you have a friend with an spare graphics card, see if they would loan you one for a day or two just to test it out and see if the card is your problem.
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  7.    06 Sep 2015 #77
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    now that I now what we are monitoring I'm going to look at what I need to setup and what I need to look for.
    I'm not going to do this until tomorrow. Thanks
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  8.    06 Sep 2015 #78
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    See if this will help. It will give you everything you can imagine if you can figure out how to read it. http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...-diagnose.html The log will be very long, so start the test immediately after starting the log and turn the log off immediately after the test is finished.

    Don't run it again unless you have a GPU temp monitoring program like http://gaming.msi.com/features/afterburner. Go into the settings and create a custom fan profile. For this test you want an aggressive fan profile. Also, this test is quite brutal on a card and in real life you will never see temps like you see here. That is the case with all stability tests. But, if you think your card is on it's last legs, I would not run the test. The test will push your graphics card to its limits. If you decide to run it again, do not let it get that hot. If it gets to 80C, shut it down.
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  9.    07 Sep 2015 #79
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    let me first answer your post on the card and Fan.
    1) There is no fan on the card. Only a heat sink
    2) There is no on board graphics card. It is a home built system and it only has the card which is a Diamond Radeon HD 4650 1GB. I didn't buy this card with the point of gaming so I wasn't think of temp as being an issue. Maybe I should have.
    3) I may have access to another card so I will check around
    Next you asked "If you had the log set for 60 seconds, it didn't run through the test it would seem. Why did it get that high without you shutting it down first? "
    I started the program and the alarm went off right away and I immediately shut it down. I probably didn't even let it run for a full minute as I was concerned because of the alarm I guess. Looking at that program again I realized that there was a setting for temp alarm and I did not change that. It defaults to 100c. That means that as soon as I started that program my card was at 100c.

    Then to clarify what you are saying in your next post. You pointed me to two links.
    1) a diagnostic post which references GPUZ, which is a diagnostic program. this says to run a game to stress the system.
    2) instead you are recommending Afterburner, you second link, to stress the system.
    I'm assuming you are suggesting to not use FurMark again but instead use GPUZ and Afterburner.
    Correct?

    I'm going to first set up GPUZ and monitor the card and temp without anything running. I'm wondering if this card is always running hot and thus already cooked. I'll post back once I do this.
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  10.    07 Sep 2015 #80
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    GPUz is not a stress program. It just identifies your card and all the details about it. It does not do anything other than read the details and has a sensor tab which can read all the sensor readings.

    Afterburner is not a stress program either. It is basically an overclocking utility. But, it also has excellent sensor readings, such as temps, will allow you to set fan profiles (of course you don't have one) but it will monitor your temps very well, which is what I suggested it for.

    With your problems, I would be hesitant to run Furmark again. Personally, I would not do it. Your card has demonstrated you cannot run that test. There is no sense in ruining your card. I may suggest you try a house fan. Remove the side of the case and blow the house fan directly into the case hitting the card and see if that makes a difference.

    What manufacturer, model and size PSU do you have?
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