Critical Process Died Loop - Help would be appreciated.

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  1. Posts : 14,903
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       #11

    Again, Kernel 41 is NOT a crash. It is an event that Windows recorded.

    **** Do not do this *** This is an example of how you can manually trigger Kernel 41 without any BSOD.
    Hold down the power button while Windows is running, then your computer is forcedly shut down. Next time Windows boots up, Kernel 41 will be recorded. Why? Because Windows didn't shutdown properly.
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  2. Posts : 61
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       #12

    Ah thank you so if Kernel appears in the critical column as a shutdown there should be a warning etc around that time that points to the reason for the shudown such as memory management or corrupted hardware etc?
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  3. Posts : 14,903
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       #13

    If an actual crash occurred you'll see the event ID 1001 which contains some details about the bugcheck but it probably won't tell you much as it's cryptic.
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  4. Posts : 61
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       #14

    Well I finally got round to downloading memtest (Download - Auto-installer for USB Key (Win 7/8/10) ) and ran it overnight and no errors were found, which I must say surprised me a tad as I've had the odd "memory management BSOD" in the past.

    Also ran SFC /SCANNOW and no issues were shown on this occasion. PC is also currently booting to desktop through Windows Boot Manager so at the moment I've stayed away from updating the BIOS as all is calm at the moment on that front. No recent crashes whislt exiting or playing Football Manager since I changed to software rather than GPU assisted in the rendering mode and only one BSOD in the last week.

    So since the Critical Process Died and then getting it back via what I assume was the Acronis Image the PC has (fingers crossed) been running better since the CPD BSOD.

    You might well be right that it's the SSD so will keep an eye on things. A neighbour suggested I buy (if not a new PC) but at least an external hard drive and move everything across to that although I don't think I've got a spare slot in the motherboard,.

    Many thanks for all your help though, it's much appreciated.

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  5. Posts : 14,903
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       #15

    I have a few remarks.

    The memory management BSOD (0x1A) is not by definition a RAM problem. Memory management is a rather complex system within Windows and the BSOD indicates that something went wrong within this system, as it is complex there are various reasons for why something goes wrong. As it happens to be, though, RAM is rarely the cause for it as I've seen very few situations where there were actual RAM problems when this 0x1A crash occurred. Say maybe 1 out of 1000 is due to RAM.

    This is something for in the future. SFC is a utility used to fix corruption so that Windows can continue to run smoothly. However, BSOD crashes are rarely (like exceptionally rarely) a result of issues/corruption with Window. Most of what I have seen are from my own computers. Don't get me wrong, you may occasionally get system file corruption, probably due to a bad update, but 99.99% of the time they won't cause a crash and that is why SFC is not useful for BSOD problems.

    Another thing for in the future. There are many guides online providing tips and instructions for 'fixing' crashes, most of them are complete crap that have no idea what they're talking about. If they even remotely knew what they're talking about, then they would know that 90% of the suggestions are a complete waste of time. There are usually a bunch of suggestions collected from scouring the internet and there might be one suggestion that's useful (drivers) but the solution still sucks. I mean going through device manager and updating all drivers rarely works because the source used by device manager to check for updates doesn't have newer drivers. Instead, check with the vendor of the laptop/motherboard, that's much more effective as it allows you to reinstall the drivers in case of corrupted drivers. With device manager reinstalling drivers is not particularly easy sometimes. Having said that, the best option is coming to a forum and ask for help there, if the forum is known for solving BSOD problems (like we are from what I see on the internet) they'll be able to save you a lot of time.
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  6. Posts : 61
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       #16

    Indeed Axe totally agree. Site bookmarked and my first point of call again in the future. As you say so many sites, including microsoft support advise stuff that is either pointless or possibly going too far to help an issue that may well be solved quickly coming here first. On that microsoft support site within a couple of posts the suggestion is quite often a complete reinstall of windows which I find so unneccessary and it is in many cases an unneccessary suggestion. By coming here at least I know now that my RAM is pretty much ok and just to keep an eye on the SSD and I sincerely thank you for all your help and assistance.
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  7. Posts : 14,903
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       #17

    Max1968 said:
    On that microsoft support site within a couple of posts the suggestion is quite often a complete reinstall of windows which I find so unneccessary and it is in many cases an unneccessary suggestion.
    It might not even solve the crashes but make the situation worse too.


    Glad I was able to be of assistance.
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