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  1. Posts : 484
    Windows 10
       #41

    "that github link is debloat I use"
    Yep & on that page, it shows > Known Issues.
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  2. Posts : 61
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 2004 All up updated
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       #42

    jmatt said:
    "that github link is debloat I use"
    Yep & on that page, it shows > Known Issues.
    Ahh ok got it! I'm also going to go through my tweaks one by one and check if they cause ill issues with win10, however I don't think they are problems I am facing. I have used this tweaks as far back as first betas of win10.

    Mt biggest gripe is failed updates that I have to do setup repair to get them installed and it wipes out my tweaks and turns on the telemetry again.

    Like this latest update KB5003173 won't install and now update is offering me 20h2.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Well I got my PSU today and installed it, when switching on system I noticed HUGE difference, namely my case fans (8) were all running much harder/faster, I really do think it might of been my PSU not delivering enough power when gaming, so I am happy with that.

    I also got win10 installed, 20H2 build 19042.985 no errors all updated.

    Event viewer looks good no errors.

    I want to thank everyone who replied to this thread and helped me.

    HUGE shout outs to @Macboatmaster for helping and showing me many things which I plan to change to their advise they gave me about certain programs and @jmatt for their hard work going through my log files, recommend programs to install and run, going through that data and offering help, you 2 truly are what makes tenforums SO good and why I keep coming back.

    Also the admins for resetting my thread to be able to get help I needed, THANK YOU!
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  3. Posts : 484
    Windows 10
       #43

    Sounds good lovs2build, fingers crossed.
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    10, 8.1 and 7 all Professional versions, and Linux Mint
       #44

    HUGE shout outs to @Macboatmaster for helping
    Cheers that is nice of you
    I also spent some considerable time examining your logs.

    IMHO the problems having reviewed the topic were the use of the system cleaners, registry cleaners etc.
    My advice is stay away from them they are not necessary on 10
    It will look after itself and all you need to do is to clean your browsing history from time to time and use Storage Sense in settings or the shortly to be deprecated disk cleanup. - although it will remain available I believe - but not as readily accessible as it is now

    Then the other problems appear to have been Kaspersky which as I have already explained is good as an AV but not always without problems on 10 especially if you do not keep it fully updated - whereas the Windows Security Centre - Microsoft is updated automatically and before a version update is installed.

    The perhaps as you say the PSU

    Good to have worked with you.
    Hope all stays good with the computer - if not you know where we are.
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  5. Posts : 61
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 2004 All up updated
    Thread Starter
       #45

    Macboatmaster said:
    Cheers that is nice of you
    I also spent some considerable time examining your logs.

    IMHO the problems having reviewed the topic were the use of the system cleaners, registry cleaners etc.
    My advice is stay away from them they are not necessary on 10
    It will look after itself and all you need to do is to clean your browsing history from time to time and use Storage Sense in settings or the shortly to be deprecated disk cleanup. - although it will remain available I believe - but not as readily accessible as it is now

    Then the other problems appear to have been Kaspersky which as I have already explained is good as an AV but not always without problems on 10 especially if you do not keep it fully updated - whereas the Windows Security Centre - Microsoft is updated automatically and before a version update is installed.

    The perhaps as you say the PSU

    Good to have worked with you.
    Hope all stays good with the computer - if not you know where we are.
    Hello again, everything working fine and dandy no errors or BSOD. However I found the culprit for my error that I could never tack down and being a competition I had to find it. It turns out that windows update that turns it to manual, Using CMD script and VBScript to control Windows Update is what is causing the break of many of windows updates, namely the Windows update medic service. I wanted to let you know so if you ever run across someone with this error you will know.

    There is also another one, Sledgehammer - Windows 10 Update Control | My Digital Life Forums I haven't tried this one but he has warnings of things that it breaks and he wrote,

    The wrapper script causes sfc errors because it makes update hijacker files unreadable (the
    errors go away after uninstalling the script), so if you want to run sfc, uninstall the script first or
    read the logs for errors with osrss.dll, UsoClient.exe, WaaSMedic.exe, WaasMedicSvc.dll,
    WaaSMedicPS.dll, WaaSAssessment.dll, MusNotificationUx.exe, SIHClient.exe, and upfc.exe
    which is normal.

    To check that these files are the cause of the sfc errors which, again, is normal, run this in a
    command prompt and you should only see the above mentioned files listed as a problem.
    (Uninstall the script if you don't want sfc errors):

    SO I will not be using these scripts.
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  6. Macboatmaster's Avatar
    Posts : 993
    10, 8.1 and 7 all Professional versions, and Linux Mint
       #46

    Well - what can one say?
    I can only repeat that my personal opinion is to leave windows 10 completely free of any tweaks etc - of any nature except that I configure to my wishes all the options provided by 10 itself relating to more or less EVERY available setting in - settings
    for updates, privacy, apps permissions, security, edge etc.

    It really does take sometime to set it all up the first time.

    In respect of the linked tutorial and you saying
    The wrapper script causes sfc errors because it makes update hijacker files unreadable (the
    errors go away after uninstalling the script), so if you want to run sfc, uninstall the script first or
    read the logs for errors with osrss.dll, UsoClient.exe, WaaSMedic.exe, WaasMedicSvc.dll,
    WaaSMedicPS.dll, WaaSAssessment.dll, MusNotificationUx.exe, SIHClient.exe, and upfc.exe
    which is normal.
    I think I am correct in saying that Matthew points that out in his tutorial
    If you need to run the command "sfc /scannow" mentioned in this tutorial, you firstly have to run "Undo everything.cmd", which will unlock the system files previously locked by "Disable hijackers.cmd". Otherwise, errors will arise because the locked files cannot be read by System File Checker (sfc.exe). After running "sfc /scannow" and finishing the related operations, you may re-run "Disable hijackers.cmd".
    That all said = compared with Matthew Wai
    https://www.tenforums.com/members/matthew-wai.html

    I am not even on the bottom rung of his ladder - but I would not use such tweaks. That however is only MY opinion.
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  7. Posts : 61
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 2004 All up updated
    Thread Starter
       #47

    Macboatmaster said:
    Well - what can one say?
    I can only repeat that my personal opinion is to leave windows 10 completely free of any tweaks etc - of any nature except that I configure to my wishes all the options provided by 10 itself relating to more or less EVERY available setting in - settings
    for updates, privacy, apps permissions, security, edge etc.

    It really does take sometime to set it all up the first time.

    In respect of the linked tutorial and you saying


    I think I am correct in saying that Matthew points that out in his tutorial


    That all said = compared with Matthew Wai
    https://www.tenforums.com/members/matthew-wai.html

    I am not even on the bottom rung of his ladder - but I would not use such tweaks. That however is only MY opinion.
    That's the some good points but given how MS patches and QU's have been, breaking systems, people need something to stop win10 auto updating, MS should put setting in place, because I can't count how many patches or qu's broke my system, where I am at point I turn off updates and check ever few weeks, THEN extensive research of patch or QU to see how bad it breaks your system.
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  8. Posts : 484
    Windows 10
       #48

    "because I can't count how many patches or qu's broke my system"
    I have never had a problem with any of our comps, never forced updates, always waited until MS takes the update off optional.
    In other words, when they are reasonably confident the authors of the programs & devices I have installed, have got their drivers up to date. There will always be some problems for a minuscule amount of people, always been that way, nothing is perfect.
    For the silent majority, everything will be Ok.
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  9. Posts : 61
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 2004 All up updated
    Thread Starter
       #49

    jmatt said:
    I have never had a problem with any of our comps, never forced updates,
    I'm not talking about forcing updates, I'm talking about updates that were installed and had ill effects to persons systems, simple google search will show that it was and still is a problem.

    If you have never encountered this on ANY of your comps, then you must live in a perfect world. :)
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    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       #50

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    Such as software, music, videos and other intellectual property violations 
    (e.g. downloading youtube videos locally etc) -
    it is forum policy that no help shall be given to people who knowingly steal software or services.


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