New win 10 build, BSOD on the reg

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  1. Posts : 272
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       #51

    " I attached photos of the Mint installer crash"
    Did you google all the hints in that SS.

    "Could PCI bus issue cause the network and sata failures?"
    Try a Non-Ubuntu-Based Distro.
    4 Best Non-Ubuntu-Based Distros That Are Beginner Friendly

    "2) Nuke the windows install and pray for the best?"
    Boot from the ISO & during the install, keep hitting Delete, until Delete & Format are greyed out & you are left with Unallocated.
    No other drives should be connected during the install.
    https://i.imgur.com/4CoHdW4.gif

    "3) Throw this thing in the neighbor's neglected mosquito pool."
    No, there will be a lot of good parts in that comp.
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  2. Posts : 37
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       #52

    Fedora


    Ok, so I managed to get Fedora installed. I used GParted to reformat and repartition the SATA spin drive I'm using for these linux experiments, and that got the installer to recognize the disk. Perhaps the Lubuntu installation from last experiment wasn't playing nice with the Mint/Fedora installers.

    So, after using GParted, fedora installed ok and recognizes the SATA disk. Yay.

    Still no network connection. Output from lspci lists an "Ethernet Controller: Realtek Semiconducter Co LTD RTL8125 2.5GBe controller (rev 05)"

    When I open the Network gui in Fedora all I can do is configure VPNs, but I don't see a way to add an ethernet connection.

    I think I am losing the plot, I can't remember why I'm messing with linux. I guess it's just to see if the system is stable in a non windows environment?
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  3. Posts : 272
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       #53

    "I think I am losing the plot, I can't remember why I'm messing with linux. I guess it's just to see if the system is stable in a non windows environment?"
    We are trying to see if all your hardware is Ok. All hardware drivers should have installed automatically.

    What to do next!

    No point continuing with Linux anymore.

    Final Step.

    Install W10 on a drive, no other drives should be connected & do a clean install.

    To do a clean install, you delete all the partitions, using your W10 install disk.

    During the W10 install, keep hitting Delete, until Delete & Format are greyed out & you are left with Unallocated.
    Continue with the install.
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  4. Posts : 37
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    Thread Starter
       #54

    We are trying to see if all your hardware is Ok. All hardware drivers should have installed automatically.
    Indeed, that was the goal of these Linux trials. I am not sure we've proven that to be the case.

    None of the Linux flavors I tried would establish an ethernet connection.

    One of the Snail flags was the network adapter.

    Might there be a link here?
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  5. Posts : 272
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       #55

    "Indeed, that was the goal of these Linux trials. I am not sure we've proven that to be the case"
    We haven't, I don't know if it is a User or hardware issue, that's why we need to try a clean install on your spare drive.

    "One of the Snail flags was the network adapter"
    You have mentioned that before, but without trying I have no way of knowing.
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  6. Posts : 37
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #56

    Copied over whatever files I think I might miss from my C drive to a USB stick, so I'm prepared to reinstall Win10.

    Before doing that, I figured I'd run Snail and let it do it's thing. Might get lucky. Seems to have updated the Ethernet and PCI drivers successfully. I do still have the 2009 MS drivers on the chipset though, which bothers me.

    Update: Idled for an hour or so with youtube and eventually BSOD. So no such luck. Begin the iso download!
    Last edited by molotov256; 4 Days Ago at 21:21.
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  7. Posts : 272
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       #57

    Ok, with the new install, let windows do it's stuff, updates & drivers etc. Now test.

    Don't add any programs whilst testing.
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  8. Posts : 37
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    Thread Starter
       #58

    Back to Windows


    ISO was very slow to download, so let it run overnight. Reinstalled in the morning, and will leave it to update and whatnot.

    Should I start updating drivers? If so, should I go one driver at a time manually, or just do the Snail thing?

    Poking through device manager after first round of Windows update, I see it has installed an NVidia driver for the GT710. So that's nice.

    Processor has the same 2009 MS drivers. I assume that is not so nice.

    There are some unrecognized PCI devices now.

    Checking windows update again, I see it encountered an error. Off to a good start!

    - - - Updated - - -

    The update that is failing to install is Security Intellignece Update for MS Defender Antivirus KB2267602 (Version 1.335.499.0) (2)

    I googled the code and tried running the suggested .net framework repair tool, but that didn't do the trick.

    Considering this is a freshly downloaded ISO from MS servers.... I mean...

    I think I got it sorted out now.... updated definitions from within Defender, and then retried the update. Now it's got the green check and says its up to date.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Bummer.

    I broke the 'dont install anything' rule, cuz I really prefer using firefox. If that's a bridge too far I can reinstall again and suffer with edge till the next BSOD.

    Also got BlueScreenView to help read the dump files.

    Beyond that, it's a clean install that went through windows update and nothing more.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails New win 10 build, BSOD on the reg-dmp-4-9-21.png   New win 10 build, BSOD on the reg-devman-4-9-21.png   New win 10 build, BSOD on the reg-update-error-4-9-21.png  
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  9. Posts : 272
    Windows 10
       #59

    Small steps, keep testing without making any more changes.
    "Processor has the same 2009 MS drivers. I assume that is not so nice"
    If you are not getting any blue screens, leave that alone.

    "There are some unrecognized PCI devices now"
    We will deal with that later, once we know for sure your W10 install is stable.

    Don't install the Optional MS Update.
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  10. Posts : 37
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #60

    We will deal with that later, once we know for sure your W10 install is stable.
    It's not.

    Apologies for the stream of consciousness post above but it ends in BSOD.

    I set up the compy running a long youtube video, and it reset at some point. I logged in, checked BlueScreenView, and there was a minidump. I posted an image of the BlueScreenView log in the previous post.

    I am going to try disabling the network interface and using a usb ethernet adapter to try and re-create the crash watching the same 10 hour bossa nova video. I don't have sound without my audio interface installed, so I won't be able to groove properly, but these are the hardships we face in 2021.

    I have a hunch at this point it's MOBO related, specific to the NIC since none of the linux flavors I installed would create a network connection. I don't have an adapter handy, but I'm sure I can borrow one from a buddy.

    LMK if there's anything to try in the meantime. For now, I sleep.
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