Random Memory_Management BSOD's

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  1. Posts : 19
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       #21

    Ok... I'm unable to repair SFC or run DISM commands. Followed all the steps and the same error.

    I'm going to fresh install windows 10. Will post again, to update.

    Thanks again for all the help. :)
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  2. Posts : 514
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       #22

    "Will post again, to update."
    Yes please, I spent 8 hrs yesterday ( solving comp problems is one of my hobbies ) researching your dump & log files, so I look forward to your feedback on the new install.
    Last edited by jmatt; 10 Mar 2021 at 19:47.
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  3. Posts : 19
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    Thread Starter
       #23

    Yes I will. I decided to install the system again, to have a clean base to look at. These BSODs also happen in a new installation, it is a matter of time.

    So far so good, installed all the AMD drivers with their driver autodetect, latest nvidia drivers, and lan and audio drivers from the MSI website. Installed world of warcraft, played for an hour, and no BSOD, so far.

    Im not forcing any windows update, do far I'm at version 20H2, build 19042.631.

    I'm gonna play more today, and o other things, lets see what happens. Will update.

    Thanks again jmatt :)
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  4. Posts : 514
    Windows 10
       #24

    Thanks Spudito, add programs very slowly, that gives you a chance to know what is the culprit.
    I wouldn't install Malwarebytes until you are really sure things are Ok.
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  5. Posts : 19
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    Thread Starter
       #25

    jmatt said:
    Thanks Spudito, add programs very slowly, that gives you a chance to know what is the culprit.
    I wouldn't install Malwarebytes until you are really sure things are Ok.
    Yes, that's my idea too, adding programs, stress test enough, before adding another. I'll just keep windows defender as my AV.

    Got the first notification from windows update: Imgur: The magic of the Internet

    Let's what happens...

    EDIT: Windows update done, I'm now at build 19042.867
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  6. Posts : 514
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       #26

    "Let's what happens.."
    Fingers crossed.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Back tomorrow, have fun.
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  7. Posts : 19
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #27

    And... they have returned...

    Last thing I installed, was Sims 4, for my girlfriend. She played fine for about 2 hours. After about 5 minutes she exited the game, it BSOD, with no error, just stuck at 0%, and had to hard reset.

    After the reset, right after I put the the windows login pin, got 3 BSOD's. Two of them, related to NVIDIA drivers, I think.

    From WhoCrashed, I got this, if it helps:

    On Thu 3/11/2021 9:35:27 PM your computer crashed or a problem was reported
    crash dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\031121-5562-02.dmp
    This was probably caused by the following module: hardware.sys (hardware)
    Bugcheck code: 0x1A (0x41792, 0xFFFFFC80F04FA7A0, 0x8000000000000, 0x0)
    Error: MEMORY_MANAGEMENT
    Bug check description: This indicates that a severe memory management error occurred. A corrupted PTE has been detected.
    This might be a case of memory corruption. This may be because of a hardware issue such as faulty RAM, overheating (thermal issue) or because of a buggy driver. This problem might also be caused because of overheating (thermal issue).
    A third party driver was identified as the probable root cause of this system error. It is suggested you look for an update for the following driver: hardware.sys .

    On Thu 3/11/2021 10:00:58 PM your computer crashed or a problem was reported
    crash dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\031121-5921-01.dmp
    This was probably caused by the following module: ntoskrnl.exe (nt+0x3F5C50)
    Bugcheck code: 0x1A (0x41790, 0xFFFFF30003E1F1E0, 0x4F, 0x50)
    Error: MEMORY_MANAGEMENT
    file path: C:\Windows\system32\ntoskrnl.exe
    product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
    company: Microsoft Corporation
    description: NT Kernel & System
    Bug check description: This indicates that a severe memory management error occurred. A page table page has been corrupted.
    This might be a case of memory corruption. This may be because of a hardware issue such as faulty RAM, overheating (thermal issue) or because of a buggy driver. This problem might also be caused because of overheating (thermal issue).
    The crash took place in the Windows kernel. Possibly this problem is caused by another driver that cannot be identified at this time.

    On Thu 3/11/2021 10:09:47 PM your computer crashed or a problem was reported
    crash dump file: C:\Windows\MEMORY.DMP
    This was probably caused by the following module: nvlddmkm.sys (0xFFFFF805862D83D5)
    Bugcheck code: 0x1E (0xFFFFFFFFC0000005, 0xFFFFF805862D83D5, 0x0, 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF)
    Error: KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED
    file path: C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_dispi.inf_amd64_272b5c540127d6d2\nvlddmkm.sys
    product: NVIDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver, Version 461.72
    company: NVIDIA Corporation
    description: NVIDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver, Version 461.72
    Bug check description: This indicates that a kernel-mode program generated an exception which the error handler did not catch.
    This might be a case of memory corruption. This may be because of a hardware issue such as faulty RAM, overheating (thermal issue) or because of a buggy driver.
    A third party driver was identified as the probable root cause of this system error. It is suggested you look for an update for the following driver: nvlddmkm.sys (NVIDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver, Version 461.72 , NVIDIA Corporation).

    On Thu 3/11/2021 10:09:47 PM your computer crashed or a problem was reported
    crash dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\031121-6156-01.dmp
    This was probably caused by the following module: nvlddmkm.sys (0xFFFFF805862D83D5)
    Bugcheck code: 0x1E (0xFFFFFFFFC0000005, 0xFFFFF805862D83D5, 0x0, 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF)
    Error: KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED
    file path: C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_dispi.inf_amd64_272b5c540127d6d2\nvlddmkm.sys
    product: NVIDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver, Version 461.72
    company: NVIDIA Corporation
    description: NVIDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver, Version 461.72
    Bug check description: This indicates that a kernel-mode program generated an exception which the error handler did not catch.
    This might be a case of memory corruption. This may be because of a hardware issue such as faulty RAM, overheating (thermal issue) or because of a buggy driver.
    A third party driver was identified as the probable root cause of this system error. It is suggested you look for an update for the following driver: nvlddmkm.sys (NVIDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver, Version 461.72 , NVIDIA Corporation).


    If you need any logs, just tell me. i'm not going to install, or do anything on the computer, until next steps, to see if we can narrow the possibilities. :)
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  8. Posts : 1,746
    Windows 10 Pro x64 22H2
       #28

    Did you use driver verifier to narrow down the problem?
    https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...3-c48669e4c983
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  9. Posts : 514
    Windows 10
       #29

    "This might be a case of memory corruption. This may be because of a hardware issue such as faulty RAM, overheating (thermal issue) or because of a buggy driver.
    A third party driver was identified as the probable root cause of this system error. It is suggested you look for an update for the following driver: nvlddmkm.sys (NVIDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver, Version 461.72 , NVIDIA Corporation)."

    All my previous research of your dump files & logs, pointed at Ram or NVIDIA driver.
    As you have done a lot of testing etc on those 2, lets check the overheating side of things.

    Thermal Paste
    Arctic Silver, Inc.
    Arctic Silver Incorporated - Route to Product Instructions for Arctic Silver 5
    Application methods for applying thermal compound to Intel® CPU
    Arctic Silver, Inc. - Intel® Application Methods
    Application methods for applying thermal compound to AMD® CPU
    Arctic Silver, Inc. - AMD® Application Methods
    How Much Thermal Paste Should I Apply to My CPU?
    How to Apply Thermal Paste: 12 Steps (with Pictures) - wikiHow
    How to Properly Apply Thermal Paste to a CPU - Make Tech Easier
    Thermal transfer compound comparison
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  10. Posts : 19
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #30

    zebal said:
    Did you use driver verifier to narrow down the problem?
    https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...3-c48669e4c983
    No, never used that. I will check the link, and give it a try. Thanks.


    jmatt said:
    "This might be a case of memory corruption. This may be because of a hardware issue such as faulty RAM, overheating (thermal issue) or because of a buggy driver.
    A third party driver was identified as the probable root cause of this system error. It is suggested you look for an update for the following driver: nvlddmkm.sys (NVIDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver, Version 461.72 , NVIDIA Corporation)."

    All my previous research of your dump files & logs, pointed at Ram or NVIDIA driver.
    As you have done a lot of testing etc on those 2, lets check the overheating side of things.

    Thermal Paste
    Arctic Silver, Inc.
    Arctic Silver Incorporated - Route to Product Instructions for Arctic Silver 5
    Application methods for applying thermal compound to Intel® CPU
    Arctic Silver, Inc. - Intel® Application Methods
    Application methods for applying thermal compound to AMD® CPU
    Arctic Silver, Inc. - AMD® Application Methods
    How Much Thermal Paste Should I Apply to My CPU?
    How to Apply Thermal Paste: 12 Steps (with Pictures) - wikiHow
    How to Properly Apply Thermal Paste to a CPU - Make Tech Easier
    Thermal transfer compound comparison
    I'm using Artic MX-4, as I never use the thermal compound that comes with stock coolers. I used TG remover, to remove the stock thermal paste, and applied the new one, so I think this is not the problem, what can be the problem is the stock cooler, but I will check the temps. I have an Corsair H100i GTX water cooler, but I dont remember where I stored the AMD mounting brackets I'm going to check online and see if I can buy new ones for AMD, and try the water cooler.
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