After Memory Management BSOD, WIndows Now Stuck in Automatic Repair

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  1. erwynnipeg
    Posts : 36
    Windows 10 / Fedora
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    After Memory Management BSOD, WIndows Now Stuck in Automatic Repair


    Today when trying to boot my PC, it immediately made the Memory Management bluescreen. I waited for it to be over and tried to boot again and Windows went into Automatic Repair and will no longer go to Windows even after restarting. It always fails to boot.

    I have had this bluescreen in the past. Every time it happened it happened immediately when booting into Windows, and has never occurred after booting into Windows partially, after being in Windows, or when the RAM is being completely used on Windows. It never has caused me to be unable to boot until today

    I have SK Hynix SODIMM 2 x 8 GB. I am using an ASUS G20CB.

    This is all the logs for SrtTrail and the only dmp file in my minidump. https://mega.nz/file/EoRSURIS#DGb5rfzl1ty6rfy9ZiZ6b65daxE1meYkTJpmnFdPy2Q

    I can't get into Windows, so I do not know my version number, my apologies
    PS: I tried to get the dmp I hope I got it, I can't access Windows to use the V2 collector so I just copied it out of Minidump

    Thank you everyone for any help and I really appreciate everything and hope everyone stays safe.
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  3. zbook
    Posts : 41,472
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
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    The mini dump file was not able to be opened.

    Srttrail:
    Code:
    Bugcheck 1a. Parameters = 0x3f, 0xde2db, 0xbba559fa, 0x2751729c


    What are the status of the important computer files:
    a) files backed up to another drive or the cloud
    b) backed up images saved to another drive or the cloud
    c) no backed up files or images > files need to be saved
    d) no backed up files or images > files do not need to be saved




    Please perform the following steps:

    1) Find 3 or 4 flash drives that you can format (> or = 8 GB)

    2) Make tools that can be used to recover important files, test the drives, and troubleshoot

    3) On a working computer create:

    a) a new bootable windows 10 iso 20H2:
    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows10
    Download Windows 10 ISO File
    Download Windows 10 ISO File
    Create Bootable USB Flash Drive to Install Windows 10
    Create Bootable USB Flash Drive to Install Windows 10


    b) bootable Ubuntu flash drive:
    Create a bootable USB stick on Windows | Ubuntu tutorials
    Create a bootable USB stick on Windows | Ubuntu
    Linux to the rescue! How Ubuntu can help a computer in distress | PCWorld


    c) Flash drive for Memtest86 and Sea Tools



    4) Run Memtest86 version 8.4 (or newer version if available) for four passes.
    Repeat the test so that eight passes are performed.

    MemTest86 - Official Site of the x86 Memory Testing Tool

    Use a camera or smart phone camera to take pictures and post images into the thread.
    In case there are any problems uploading images use share links (one drive, drop box, or google drive)

    Memtest86 has a feature to produce a text report.
    Please post this in addition to the images.


    5) Run Sea Tools long generic test
    Post an image of the test result into the thread

    SeaTools | Seagate Support US



    6) Boot to the Windows 10 iso > repair your computer > command prompt > type: (comments are in parenthesis)
    List of PC brands with their corresponding hot-keys


    Code:
    notepad
bcdedit /enum all
bcdedit | find "osdevice"
diskpart
lis dis
lis vol
sel dis 0
det dis
lis par
sel par 1
det par
sel par 2
det par
sel par 3
det par
sel par 4
det par
sel par 5
det par
sel par 6
det par
sel dis 1
det dis
lis par
sel par 1
det par
sel par 2
det par
sel par 3
det par
sel par 4
det par
sel par 5
det par
sel par 6
det par

    (When these have completed > right click on the top bar or title bar of the administrative command prompt box > left click on edit then select all > right click on the top bar again > left click on edit then copy > paste into notepad > save to a flash drive > move the flash drive to a working computer > upload into the thread)

    Use this link as needed when posting results:
    How to Change Post Editor to Source or WYSIWYG Mode at TenForums.com

    For all steps make sure images are posted into the thread:
    How to Upload and Post Screenshots and Files at Ten Forums
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  4. erwynnipeg
    Posts : 36
    Windows 10 / Fedora
    Thread Starter
       New #3

    Dear Zbook,
    I have some questions for you before we begin and I dearly hope this doesn't disrupt your day.
    I have two different operating systems - Fedora and Windows 10. Fedora is on an SSD that Windows (usually) cannot see, and Windows is on an HDD that Fedora (usually) cannot see. Do I still need to install Ubuntu on a flashdrive, or could I use Fedora?

    Is there any way to fix Windows instead of reformatting it? I would greatly prefer to avoid reformatting.

    I am using rEFInd for them to work together.
    Will using the command you proposed at the very bottom ("lis par / det dis") delete anything? I am unfamiliar with these commands, I apologize if it's a very uneducated question.

    I will run SeaTools and Memtest soon and post my results.

    Stay safe and have a good day, thank you for your detailed reply.
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  6. zbook
    Posts : 41,472
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
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    All of the steps so far are diagnostic.

    The diskpart commands and bcdedit commands are to find information about the drive:
    Disk
    Volume
    Partition
    bcdedit /enum all
    bcdedit | find "osdevice"

    Using Ubuntu should allow in case it's needed:
    a) testing the Windows drive with HD Sentinel Linux (free version)
    b) backing up important files to another drive

    For drive testing see if you can run Sea Tools USB.

    The goal is to troubleshoot the boot failure without reinstalling Windows.
    If troubleshooting fails then options are similar to reset save files or clean install.

    lis par = list partition
    det dis = detail disk

    Fedora I've not used but if you are able to use it in a similar fashion as Ubuntu then that is an additional option.
    Dual boot on one or two drives is another problem that may need to be troubleshooted.

    For the diskpart commands add as needed for any other drive including USB:

    Code:
    sel dis 2
det dis
lis par
sel par 1
det par
sel par 2
det par
sel par 3
det par
sel par 4
det par
sel par 5
det par
sel par 6
det par
sel dis 3
det dis
lis par
sel par 1
det par
sel par 2
det par
sel par 3
det par
sel par 4
det par
sel par 5
det par
sel par 6
det par

    If Memtet86 or Sea Tools display hardware problems then replace hardware.

    If the tests pass then the automatic repair may be able to be turned off to display the underlying error message and code.

    Once disk, volume, and partition are known there are some troubleshooting steps that may be able to be performed related to failure to boot, operating system corruption, drive file system corruption, problems related to windows update, etc.
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  7. erwynnipeg
    Posts : 36
    Windows 10 / Fedora
    Thread Starter
       New #5

    Dear Zbook,
    The ASUS G20CB Z-170D Motherboard does not support Linux normally, therefore does not support Tinycore, so does not support Seatools - it works, runs into errors, dies, comes back, then turns off my monitor display saying "OUT OF RANGE".
    (the way I got Fedora to work is, only Fedora works sort of well on my Motherboard for some reason, it was on a verified list of working distros)
    Is there another way I can run Seatools outside of a bootable USB that is running Linux?
    Thank you and stay safe.
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  8. zbook
    Posts : 41,472
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       New #6

    When windows does not boot the methods to check the drive may include:

    a) Sea tools bootable
    b) Sea tools DOS
    c) ubuntu / linux bootable > hd Sentinel
    d) move the drive to an empty bay of another computer
    e) move the drive to a HD enclosure

    These are Sea Tools links:

    Run Sea Tools for Windows
    long generic test
    Post an image of the test result into the thread
    SeaTools for Windows |
    Seagate
    How to use SeaTools for Windows | Seagate Support US

    SeaTools for DOS - Hard Drive Diagnostic

    SeaTools | Seagate Support US
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  9. erwynnipeg
    Posts : 36
    Windows 10 / Fedora
    Thread Starter
       New #7

    Dear Zbook,
    Yes. Sadly, I cannot use Seatools.
    Seatools Bootable uses Linux Tinycore, which is incompatible with my motherboard and crashes.Seatools DOS requires CDROM which I do not have. I can't get past Windows Automatic Repair, so I can't run Seatools for Windows, since it needs a working Windows. I can't find Seatools for Fedora or Debian, but if you know an equivalent hard drive scanning program that supports Fedora, I can use that to scan instead.
    I hope you are doing well today. Thank you for your reply.Thankfully, I am not empty handed - I do have the results of my Memtest. I will post them here.

    I tried to use the Image button like it said to in the link you sent me, but when I click on the checkmark, the images never appear.
    Here is the link to the Imgur album for Memtest memtest results - Album on Imgur
    Here is the Google Drive link for the Memtest log MemTest86.log - Google Drive

    Thank you and stay safe.
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  10. zbook
    Posts : 41,472
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       New #8

    When available post images of:

    a) Memtest86 second run of 4 passes with text report

    b) bcdedit and diskpart commands with results

    c) see if you can move the drive to an empty bay of another computer or a HD enclosure for testing
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  12. erwynnipeg
    Posts : 36
    Windows 10 / Fedora
    Thread Starter
       New #9

    Dear Zbook,
    The enclosed Imgur album has 8 passes in total - one 4 pass and another 4 pass, 0 errors on both passes and the log included was the only log I saw in the Memtest USB, sadly, before I wiped it to try SeaTools

    I will try this today. Thank you.

    I have a backup laptop but it doesn't fit in it sadly. The laptop is breaking internally as well, which might make it more confusing if I found a way to test using the laptop. Any other tool I can use that isn't SeaTools?

    Thank you and stay safe.
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  13. zbook
    Posts : 41,472
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
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    HD enclosures are inexpensive and turn an internal drive into an external drive.
    Then software can be used to test the drive.

    https://www.amazon.com/Drive-Enclosu...node=160354011

    They are available at best buy.
    Many cost < $20.

    The HD enclosure can be skipped if you can boot Ubuntu / Linux and run a drive test such as:
    Hard Disk Sentinel - Free Linux version


    Create a bootable USB stick on Windows | Ubuntu
    Linux to the rescue! How Ubuntu can help a computer in distress | PCWorld



    When available please post:
    bcdedit and diskpart commands with results
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