Stuck in Automatic Repair = inadvertently changed C: drive path?

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  1. Posts : 34,886
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       #21

    @zbook- what I'm suggesting should resurrect the PC, provided what's left on the "C:" is at all viable - the clean install is just a step to that. Saves a lot of technical bits and time on our part.
    Last edited by dalchina; 26 Oct 2018 at 05:40.
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  2. xyz
    Posts : 107
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       #22

    sorry, took a while to clear up external drives so as to have enough space for a C: copy.

    Made the C: copy

    Started Clean Install Windows 10 Home (64) (Install Windows Only option)

    German Install, because although I used English on it, the original will be in German because it is bought here in Germany

    However, after 2nd stage (data is being prepared... = green install bar at bottom of screen) = the install just restarts and returns to the first Windows 10 install window (back to the install start window)

    Not sure if I should have first Formatted the partition?

    Answer to Zbook:

    sorry just read what you wrote yesterday.

    Answer: as you can see from what I just wrote. I have been busy preparing for copy of C: drive and then starting the Clean Install = which has just failed!

    I am not too bothered about saving the data.

    I would just like to not have to buy another Windows 10 Home key (the key = it is a pre-installed software = originally windows 8 = upgraded to Windows 10 = I don't have a software key). (I guess the key is also somehow pre-installed or recognised?)

    The option that is the easiest and quickest is best for me = have spent enough time on this.

    But a repair might not be possible since I have (2x) tried to do a clean install!
    Last edited by xyz; 25 Oct 2018 at 12:19.
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  3. Posts : 39,954
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       #23

    What was the problem with clean install?

    Did you want to troubleshoot clean install or troubleshoot the failure to boot?
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  4. Posts : 34,886
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       #24

    I'm not convinced you're doing the clean install correctly. That's to unallocated space not to an existing partition. Windows creates up to 4 partitions when being installed.


    Clean Install Windows 10 | Windows 10 Tutorials

    I would just like to not have to buy another Windows 10 Home key (the key = it is a pre-installed software = originally windows 8 = upgraded to Windows 10 = I don't have a software key). (I guess the key is also somehow pre-installed or recognised?)
    You don't need to. Once Win 10 is installed, it is registered to that PC on MS's servers. You can reinstall the same edition as many times as you like.

    The option that is the easiest and quickest is best for me = have spent enough time on this.
    - and you'd still have to do a clean install.

    If you're not prepared to spend time on this, best not ask more difficult questions which require that- you could use a computer repair shop.... or perhaps you know a friend who could help you.

    Inevitably unfamiliar procedures like this will take you longer than it would me.
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  5. xyz
    Posts : 107
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       #25

    dalchina and zbook

    Firstly I would clearly like to express my deepest gratitude for all the help I get on tenForums, and in this particular situation from you dalchina and zbook. I cannot express this enough. I am so grateful. I ask a question on tenForum because I am not in a financial situation to get things done by others, so have to try and do it myself. I would be lost without the help you and other’s give. I also learn a lot, which I am also deeply grateful for. However, we are all different in the world, for some, such things as the digital come fairly easy or light, some learn with a struggle or not, for others it is a nightmare.

    I myself am greatly interested in learning, but do have some handicaps. I have a group of syndromes including Asperger’s and Dyslexia which makes language a big challenge, to say the least, but depends on the way words are presented. It is too complicated to try and explain this here, and not the right place, but unfortunately I (my brain) do have major problems digesting some of the technical texts. I can misunderstand some things, miss other things out, read things wrongly, my brain can see some things differently to what is written…etc, and I have a very low sensory overload level. Hence my comment: “The option that is the easiest and quickest is best for me = have spent enough time on this” No offence was intended by this!

    dalchina = you were right = installation had not failed! The problem was = as I have discovered = so long the flash drive remains in the usb, the installation just keeps returning to the first install window after install. Shut the computer down and remove flash, then with the next start = like just now = the setting-up process starts.


    I have now started the computer several times just to make sure it starts okay = which it does.
    Since I misunderstood the Clean Install Instruction part = Step 12/Drive options (advanced) = unallocated = and did not delete the data on the old partition part = the installation process has placed this data in a separate folder (old.windows) = and has in fact done this twice (2x old. folders) since I had done two attempts at installing.

    I don’t know if this is a problem?
    If I can leave it like this?
    Or if it is necessary to do a new and totally clean (first deleting) install?
    But everything seems okay at this moment!

    and many thanks
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  6. Posts : 34,886
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       #26

    Hi, thanks, great it's booting again and you've completed a clean install.

    You're doing brilliantly in a difficult situation- I can only imagine how it is from what I've seen from TV. Sorry to hear of your problems.

    However I'm not sure that you have deleted the original partitions from what you say:
    Since I misunderstood the Clean Install Instruction part = Step 12/Drive options (advanced) = unallocated = and did not delete the data on the old partition part = the installation process has placed this data in a separate folder (old.windows) = and has in fact done this twice (2x old. folders) since I had done two attempts at installing.
    Please post a screenshot of Disk Management:
    E.g. Windows key + X, click Disk Management

    To post a screenshot please use the Insert Image icon above your post. Thanks.

    If there are remaining old partitions, we can delete them, but it would probably be safest to do a proper clean install.
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  7. xyz
    Posts : 107
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       #27

    Attachment 210011Attachment 210012

    old partitions are still there
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  8. Posts : 39,954
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       #28

    Were you able to boot normally after the recent changes?

    If you can boot normally please run the BETA log collector and post a zip into the thread for troubleshooting.
    First change the default language to English so that the logs can be scanned and read.
    Add, Remove, and Change Display Language in Windows 10 | Windows 10 Tutorials

    BSOD - Posting Instructions - Windows 10 Forums
    https://www.tenforums.com/attachment...-v2-beta15.zip

    When disk management is launched the columns by default are narrow to where the characters in the rows are not in full view.
    Please widen these two columns: Status and Volume > make sure that the characters in each row are in full view and that the letters are not cut off.
    Disk Management - How to Post a Screenshot of | Windows 10 Tutorials

    For clean install after each partition is highlighted it should be able to be deleted.
    If all partitions are deleted it becomes an unallocated drive.
    Then Windows is installed on a clean drive.
    Drivers, then applications are reinstalled and files are recovered.
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  9. Posts : 34,886
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       #29

    Hi, it looks good enough, I think - you have some extra Windows Recovery partitions (the smaller ones) and one- the last- I imagine is a factory reset partition. (Many PC's have at least one redundant Recovery partition).

    I don't know what the 3rd one is.

    If you really want to clean up, the simplest 'no-brainer' way would be to do another clean install, wiping everything. Else you could, with due caution, delete unnecessary partitions.

    I think I recall Lenovo's have a slightly different partition arrangement, so I'd leave that to someone familiar with that to be safe.

    Moving on: you then have two options:
    After creating a disk image of what you have now (to start creating a new set of disk images)

    a. Replace your new Windows partition with the image you saved before in the hope of recovering the PC as was.
    The risk is that partition is unusable or unfixable.
    b. Carry on and reinstall programs and configure your new installation.
    (Note- you can mount the disk image previously created as another drive letter, and copy from it anything you need).

    The choice is yours.
    @zbook - from the previous post, it seems the PC is booting ok.
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  10. xyz
    Posts : 107
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       #30

    The first partition sounds as though it might also be important = something to do with Windows system (maybe something like drivers)?

    The last is = I think = the Lenovo installed recovery of the original Windows 8 (would it be useful to re-use this partition for a backup/recovery of Windows 10? = since Lenovo has some kind of recovery system = which "might" explain some of the other partitions? = Maybe the partitions should not be removed?)

    I have already removed all the games from C: = The only thing left worth saving on C: is the MS Office, but even then I see no reason not to just do a clean install (if this needed at all, when the partitions should be left in place?).

    Sorry, but it still isn't clear to me how the partitions get removed (when doing the W10 install I saw the option to Format the partitions but to delete or remove?And if I delete one that is needed?)

    So far I have found this information (although it is not directly for my type/model Computer):

    https://support.lenovo.com/de/en/solutions/ht077144
    Last edited by xyz; 27 Oct 2018 at 01:54.
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