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  1. Posts : 1,031
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       #41

    I just tried disabling all the system addons that comes with firefox after creating a fresh profile, and firefox has gotten lightning fast. It seems like creating a fresh profile without any addons, plus disabling all the system addons makes firefox faster and smoother. It just find it a bit annoying that you need a program to disable the system extensions, you should be able to do so in firefox.
    Last edited by Cerawy; 16 Jun 2019 at 05:10.
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  2. Posts : 651
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       #42

    Cerawy said:
    I just tried disabling all the default extensions that comes with firefox again. Firefox has gotten lightning quick. Seems like a fresh profile without any addons plus disabling all the build in junk extensions makes firefox run fast and smooth. It just sucks that you need a program to disable the extensions.


    Will try to install some of my addons to see if it affects performance.

    What "all the default extensions" are you writing about? There should be very few to none with a new Fx profile. I just created such a profile, and found two extensions;.One was for Free Download Manager, and it was disabled; it was not installed by Firefox, but by Free Download Manager, which is installed in Windows; the second was some sort of experimental extension from Mozilla, which I disabled; curiously, when I restarted the new profile, that extension no longer appeared, not even as a disabled one.

    Three plugsins, one required by Mozilla (the video codec,) one provided by Google for playing protected web video (Widevine content,) and the third was Flash. As with Free Download Manager's extension, the Flash plugin is not installed by Fx; Flash is installed in Windows, and it automatically finds any newly-created Fx profiles and installs there.

    If you are getting much more than that, it is yet another example of my statement that I think you have multiple problems, and need to do some serious cleaning of your computer.
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       #43

    Not Myself said:
    What "all the default extensions" are you writing about?
    I basically mean system addons such as activity stream, click to play staged rollout, firefox screenshots, follow on search telemetry, form autofill, multi pirocess staged rollout, photon onboarding, pocket, web compat, openh264 video codec and shield recipe client.

    I should probably also point out, that there seems to be two shield recipe clients, but one of them wont be disabled for some reason. It also seems like theres a system addo by google, which apparently doesnt have a name.

    Not Myself said:
    If you are getting much more than that, it is yet another example of my statement that I think you have multiple problems, and need to do some serious cleaning of your computer.
    Well, they come preinstalled with firefox, so they will still be there, even if you reinstall windows.
    Last edited by Cerawy; 16 Jun 2019 at 16:12.
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  4. Posts : 651
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       #44

    Cerawy said:
    Activity stream, click-to-play staged rollout, firefox screenshots, follow-on search telemetry, form autofill, multi-process staged rollout, photon onboarding, pocket, web compat, openh264 video codec and shield recipe client (there is two shield recipe clients but one of them won't be disabled for some reason). There is also one default extension by google which apparently doesn't have a name.




    Firefox comes spring loaded with extensions, and most of them doesn't seem to serve any purpose other than slowing firefox.





    Well they come build in with firefox, so they will be there even if you reinstall windows.
    Activity stream is not an extension; it is a replacement for New Tab Page. I had to look it up, having no idea what it might be. Similarly, Screenshots is not an extension; as with Activity, it is an operating part, to coin a name for it, of Fx. Same goes for Pocket. I have no idea if any of these slows down Fx, as I disable them. In fact, most of the items you cite are not extensions; if they were, they would appear in the Add-on Manager. That is why they are found/disabled in other locations; Pocket, for example, is found on a toolbar and/or in a menu, and is disabled through clicking on that and choosing the desired action. (I disable Pocket through Classic Theme Restorer, which is why I have never seen it; CTR will not work in Fx 57, and I don't know if a CSS replacement for that option has yet been created.)

    Shield Client is the one whose name I could not remember; why I did not get it when I updated to v 56.0, I have no idea. The first encounter was in the profile I created a while ago to check for built-in extensions. That you have two copies, one of which can not be removed, is puzzling and/or concerning, but I can offer no assistance with that.

    I could argue with your assertion that these parts of Fx, whatever their proper generic name is, serve no purpose, but I have no desire to enter into a discussion of this, partially as I don't use some of them, so have no idea of what purpose they might serve. I only know that Fx users do use such things as Pocket; I only know that through seeing forum threads about such whatever they are.
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       #45

    Cerawy said:
    Activity stream, click-to-play staged rollout, firefox screenshots, follow-on search telemetry, form autofill, multi-process staged rollout, photon onboarding, pocket, web compat, openh264 video codec and shield recipe client (there is two shield recipe clients but one of them won't be disabled for some reason). There is also one default extension by google which apparently doesn't have a name.
    You can get rid of both plugins that come with the new profile by toggling "media.gmp-provider.enabled" to false in about:config . I have been doing it for years, it has never caused an issue.

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    Under Extensions, I see one being installed with a new profile. Its something new, never seen it before. I play with profiles every week, last time I created one that extension was not there. But is easy to get rid of it. Click Remove.

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  6. Posts : 1,031
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       #46

    Not Myself said:
    Activity stream is not an extension; it is a replacement for New Tab Page. I had to look it up, having no idea what it might be. Similarly, Screenshots is not an extension; as with Activity, it is an operating part, to coin a name for it, of Fx. Same goes for Pocket.
    Well, ccleaner lists them as extensions, but i think the right word for them is system addons. I think that maybe some of them are plugins, but im not sure.

    bo elam said:
    You can get rid of both plugins that come with the new profile by toggling "media.gmp-provider.enabled" to false in about:config . I have been doing it for years, it has never caused an issue.
    Yes, thats true, but firefox comes preinstalled with some of these system addons, and you cant disable them using firefox, so you have to use a program such as ccleaner to disable them.

    It also seems like they dont seem to serve much of a purpose, besides slowing firefox. I did some research on some of these system addons, and the shield recipe client for example, seems to collect data from your browser and then send it to mozilla, which isnt something i want.

    Also, is anyone else having problems with the minimum font size feature? I have set it to 16, and some websites seems to have fairly small letters, while some websites seems to have pretty big letters and some websites seems to get it just about right.
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  7. Posts : 651
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       #47

    Cerawy said:
    Well ccleaner lists them as extensions, but i think the right word for them is system addons. Maybe some of them are plugins.
    If they are plugins, they will be listed on the plugins page.

    Cerawy said:
    Thats true, but firefox comes loaded with system addons that you cant disable with firefox, so you have to use a third party program to disable them. They dont seem to serve much of a purpose, for example i did a research on the shield recipe client and it seems that it collects data from your browser and sends it to mozilla, which is not something i want.
    There is a purpose for the shield, but not for users; it is strictly a method of obtaining user data for Mozilla; this is not at all uncommon. I don't happen to want it, either, so simply deleted the only copy in my newest Fx profile.

    Take a look at Options/Privacy & Security, where there are other, similar, entries. Incidentally, our of curiosity, I did check to see if "Do not disturb me" does get reset each time Fx is restarted; it does, and I have no idea why that should be. I was not aware of this, as a setting in Classic Theme Restorer is what prevents me from being pestered by the related popups; I hope that one of the CSS settings being found to replace CRT settings is for this.

    Cerawy said:
    P.S is anyone else having problems with the minimum font size feature? I have set it to 16, and some websites seems to have fairly small letters, some websites seems to have pretty big letters and some websites seems to get it just about right.
    I have one web site that, unless I set the minimum font size to no larger than 13, and allow sites to use their own fonts, has a number of pages where the left-hand column overrides part of the left edge of the right-hand column. I have notified the company, and even sent them a link to the HTML checker for their home page. There are many errors on that page; I did not even bother to see if I could find any of them that might be causing the display fault.
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  8. Posts : 1,031
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       #48

    Edwin said:
    Perhaps Firefox is not shutting down properly.
    You could try resetting Firefox.
    Alternatively, you could try 3 about:config settings:

    browser.sessionhistory.max_entries set to 0

    browser.sessionstore.max_resumed_crashes set to 0

    browser.sessionstore.resume_from_crash set to false

    Play around with them, see if it helps.
    I did a bit more testing with this issue. I couldnt find a way to make the problem occour on purpose. It seems like it happens randomly sometimes when you close firefox or firefox crashes.

    So, what i did is that i clicked ctrl, alt and delete to close firefox and open it again. It seems like doing so will sometimes make firefox open some old sessions without your permission. Sometimes firefox also creates a message with a list of previously visited websites.

    If you set browser.sessionstore.resume_from_crash to false in about config, it should be solved.

    I should problably also mention, that the setting called browser.sessionhistory.max_entries is used to browse back and forth through websites that you have previously visited, so its probably best not to change it.
    Last edited by Cerawy; 16 Jun 2019 at 05:39.
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  9. Posts : 651
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       #49

    From the mozillaZine database: "Starting in Firefox 3.5, Firefox automatically restores your previous session after one crash (or unexpected close). If Firefox crashes a second time, a "Restore Session" error page is displayed, asking whether to restore the last session or start a new session. If you do not want Firefox to automatically restore your session after one crash, set the preference browser.sessionstore.max_resumed_crashes to 0 (default is 1)." What you are seeing after a crash is the expected behavior, although it ought not to be intermittent.
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  10. Posts : 17,838
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       #50

    Cerawy said:
    ......Well ccleaner lists them as extensions, but i think the right word for them is system addons. Maybe some of them are plugins.
    Features, actually:
    (you can disable some of them in about:config)

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