Windows 10: problems with Firefox and Chrome

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  1.    11 Oct 2017 #41

    Cerawy said: View Post
    Yes, I clicked that button many times, doesn't help. It unchecks itself again.

    Should problably also say that I have been testing firefox with the new profile for some time, and so far firefox hasn't been as slow and sluggish as before. I suspect that the addons I was using may have been slowing firefox?
    I am going to start this reply by stating that you are having entirely too many problems with Fx. Unfortunately, I have no single thing that I can suggest, based on the earlier suggestions in this thread, that will fix most, if not all, of those problems, nor do I know of any such item.

    For example, you state that Fx is now not as slow as it was previously, but you do not state that it is fast. Of course, without any specifics as to what constitutes `slow' and `fast', it is impossible to determine if what you are now experiencing is reasonable, whatever "reasonable" means. Yes, improvement could very well be due to removal of one or more extensions and/or plugins. Those two things are contained in the word "addons"; extensions, by themselves, are extensions, not addons.

    To your latest problem; here is a link to a set of steps to try when settings are not retained; please do not use the first step, called Refresh; that causes many more problems than it cures, is poorly described by Mozilla, and should be avoided:

    How to fix preferences that wont save | Firefox Help
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  2.    11 Oct 2017 #42

    Cerawy said: View Post
    Yes, I clicked that button many times, doesn't help. It unchecks itself again.

    Should problably also say that I have been testing firefox with the new profile for some time, and so far firefox hasn't been as slow and sluggish as before. I suspect that the addons I was using may have been slowing firefox?
    In about:config, try setting either or both of these to false:

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  3.    11 Oct 2017 #43

    Not Myself said: View Post
    I am going to start this reply by stating that you are having entirely too many problems with Fx. Unfortunately, I have no single thing that I can suggest, based on the earlier suggestions in this thread, that will fix most, if not all, of those problems, nor do I know of any such item.
    I don't think there is a single fix to the problems, they will have to be solved with time.

    Not Myself said: View Post
    you state that Fx is now not as slow as it was previously, but you do not state that it is fast. Of course, without any specifics as to what constitutes `slow' and `fast', it is impossible to determine if what you are now experiencing is reasonable, whatever "reasonable" means.
    I think its reasonable fast with a new profile and without addons. I will try to install my addons one by one to see if it slows firefox.



    Edwin said: View Post
    In about:config, try setting either or both of these to false:

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    I have tried both, they didn't help. With that being said, I have found the correct one. Its called dom.webnotifications.enabled, similar to the one you suggested.

    Setting it to false seems to get rid of the annoying pop-ups.
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  4.    11 Oct 2017 #44

    Cerawy said: View Post
    I don't think there is a single fix to the problems, they will have to be solved with time.



    I think its reasonable fast with a new profile and without addons. I will try to install my addons one by one to see if it slows firefox.





    I have tried both, they didn't help. With that being said, I have found the correct one. Its called dom.webnotifications.enabled, similar to the one you suggested.

    Setting it to false seems to get rid of the annoying pop-ups.
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  5.    11 Oct 2017 #45

    I just tried disabling all the default extensions that comes with firefox again. Firefox has gotten lightning quick. Seems like a fresh profile without any addons plus disabling all the build in junk extensions makes firefox run fast and smooth. It just sucks that you need a program to disable the extensions.

    Will try to install some of my addons to see if it affects performance.
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  6.    12 Oct 2017 #46

    Cerawy said: View Post
    I just tried disabling all the default extensions that comes with firefox again. Firefox has gotten lightning quick. Seems like a fresh profile without any addons plus disabling all the build in junk extensions makes firefox run fast and smooth. It just sucks that you need a program to disable the extensions.


    Will try to install some of my addons to see if it affects performance.

    What "all the default extensions" are you writing about? There should be very few to none with a new Fx profile. I just created such a profile, and found two extensions;.One was for Free Download Manager, and it was disabled; it was not installed by Firefox, but by Free Download Manager, which is installed in Windows; the second was some sort of experimental extension from Mozilla, which I disabled; curiously, when I restarted the new profile, that extension no longer appeared, not even as a disabled one.

    Three plugsins, one required by Mozilla (the video codec,) one provided by Google for playing protected web video (Widevine content,) and the third was Flash. As with Free Download Manager's extension, the Flash plugin is not installed by Fx; Flash is installed in Windows, and it automatically finds any newly-created Fx profiles and installs there.

    If you are getting much more than that, it is yet another example of my statement that I think you have multiple problems, and need to do some serious cleaning of your computer.
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  7.    12 Oct 2017 #47

    Not Myself said: View Post
    What "all the default extensions" are you writing about?
    Activity stream, click-to-play staged rollout, firefox screenshots, follow-on search telemetry, form autofill, multi-process staged rollout, photon onboarding, pocket, web compat, openh264 video codec and shield recipe client (there is two shield recipe clients but one of them won't be disabled for some reason). There is also one default extension by google which apparently doesn't have a name.


    Not Myself said: View Post
    There should be very few to none with a new Fx profile.
    Firefox comes spring loaded with extensions, and most of them doesn't seem to serve any purpose other than slowing firefox.



    Not Myself said: View Post
    If you are getting much more than that, it is yet another example of my statement that I think you have multiple problems, and need to do some serious cleaning of your computer.
    Well they come build in with firefox, so they will be there even if you reinstall windows.
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  8.    12 Oct 2017 #48

    Cerawy said: View Post
    Activity stream, click-to-play staged rollout, firefox screenshots, follow-on search telemetry, form autofill, multi-process staged rollout, photon onboarding, pocket, web compat, openh264 video codec and shield recipe client (there is two shield recipe clients but one of them won't be disabled for some reason). There is also one default extension by google which apparently doesn't have a name.




    Firefox comes spring loaded with extensions, and most of them doesn't seem to serve any purpose other than slowing firefox.





    Well they come build in with firefox, so they will be there even if you reinstall windows.
    Activity stream is not an extension; it is a replacement for New Tab Page. I had to look it up, having no idea what it might be. Similarly, Screenshots is not an extension; as with Activity, it is an operating part, to coin a name for it, of Fx. Same goes for Pocket. I have no idea if any of these slows down Fx, as I disable them. In fact, most of the items you cite are not extensions; if they were, they would appear in the Add-on Manager. That is why they are found/disabled in other locations; Pocket, for example, is found on a toolbar and/or in a menu, and is disabled through clicking on that and choosing the desired action. (I disable Pocket through Classic Theme Restorer, which is why I have never seen it; CTR will not work in Fx 57, and I don't know if a CSS replacement for that option has yet been created.)

    Shield Client is the one whose name I could not remember; why I did not get it when I updated to v 56.0, I have no idea. The first encounter was in the profile I created a while ago to check for built-in extensions. That you have two copies, one of which can not be removed, is puzzling and/or concerning, but I can offer no assistance with that.

    I could argue with your assertion that these parts of Fx, whatever their proper generic name is, serve no purpose, but I have no desire to enter into a discussion of this, partially as I don't use some of them, so have no idea of what purpose they might serve. I only know that Fx users do use such things as Pocket; I only know that through seeing forum threads about such whatever they are.
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  9.    12 Oct 2017 #49

    Cerawy said: View Post
    Activity stream, click-to-play staged rollout, firefox screenshots, follow-on search telemetry, form autofill, multi-process staged rollout, photon onboarding, pocket, web compat, openh264 video codec and shield recipe client (there is two shield recipe clients but one of them won't be disabled for some reason). There is also one default extension by google which apparently doesn't have a name.
    You can get rid of both plugins that come with the new profile by toggling "media.gmp-provider.enabled" to false in about:config . I have been doing it for years, it has never caused an issue.

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    Under Extensions, I see one being installed with a new profile. Its something new, never seen it before. I play with profiles every week, last time I created one that extension was not there. But is easy to get rid of it. Click Remove.

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  10.    14 Oct 2017 #50

    Not Myself said: View Post
    Activity stream is not an extension; it is a replacement for New Tab Page. I had to look it up, having no idea what it might be. Similarly, Screenshots is not an extension; as with Activity, it is an operating part, to coin a name for it, of Fx. Same goes for Pocket.
    Well ccleaner lists them as extensions, but i think the right word for them is system addons. Maybe some of them are plugins.

    bo elam said: View Post
    You can get rid of both plugins that come with the new profile by toggling "media.gmp-provider.enabled" to false in about:config . I have been doing it for years, it has never caused an issue.
    Thats true, but firefox comes loaded with system addons that you cant disable with firefox, so you have to use a third party program to disable them. They dont seem to serve much of a purpose, for example i did a research on the shield recipe client and it seems that it collects data from your browser and sends it to mozilla, which is not something i want.

    P.S is anyone else having problems with the minimum font size feature? I have set it to 16, and some websites seems to have fairly small letters, some websites seems to have pretty big letters and some websites seems to get it just about right.
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