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  1.    12 Sep 2016 #31
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    Thread Starter

    I have an external drive, to which I usually do my backups. I'll be thinking of you when I do the pre-AU one.
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  2.    12 Sep 2016 #32
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    @Irene

    The " Backing up the system " should have been explained with more detail.

    This mean's not doing a restore point as a back up as it will be removed with all the
    other restore point's you have now.

    The safest way to make a "Full system back up" is to use a program like Macrium Reflect Free or one of your choice.
    The back up must be stored to an external HDD or SSD using a USB connection.

    When the back up is finished, the External drive must be disconnected from the computer
    before you start to do the Anniversary update.

    After you finish installing the Anniversary update and if you have any problems with it,
    you can ask a question in the appropriate thread with similar problems.
    Most of these can be corrected without much trouble.

    As a last resort you can use the system back up stored on the external drive to put your
    computer back exactly the way it was before.

    You can always ask any question's you have in advance of, or during making the back up.

    You can download Macrium Reflect Free version here.
    Macrium Reflect Free


    This tutorial will explain how to use it here.
    Macrium Reflect - Backup Restore - Windows 10 Forums
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  3.    12 Sep 2016 #33
    Join Date : Jan 2015
    UK, Midlands
    Posts : 10,456
    Win 10 Pro (1703)

    Thoroughly agree with using Macrium.. once you have your first disk images, you can keep updating them. After your first (base) image, each incremental backup you do (before/after significant changes, scheduled... manual...) is smaller and faster.

    An image is a compressed copy of the data on your drive/partition. To back up the set of partitions for Windows, make sure you select Backup, Backup Windows.

    Imaging can save you from
    - ransomware
    - hard disk failure
    - an unbootable PC (hardware faults aside)
    - unrecoverable problems

    by letting you restore your PC to a previous working state without technical help.
    It's also a full backup of your data.
    Images can even be used to help you move to a new PC.
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  4.    12 Sep 2016 #34
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Arnold, MD
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    Triple boot - Win 10 Pro, Win 10 Pro Insider (2) - (and a sprinkling of VMs)

    Quote Originally Posted by COMPUTIAC View Post
    @Irene

    The " Backing up the system " should have been explained with more detail.

    This mean's not doing a restore point as a back up as it will be removed with all the
    other restore point's you have now.

    The safest way to make a "Full system back up" is to use a program like Macrium Reflect Free or one of your choice.
    The back up must be stored to an external HDD or SSD using a USB connection.

    When the back up is finished, the External drive must be disconnected from the computer
    before you start to do the Anniversary update.

    After you finish installing the Anniversary update and if you have any problems with it,
    you can ask a question in the appropriate thread with similar problems.
    Most of these can be corrected without much trouble.

    As a last resort you can use the system back up stored on the external drive to put your
    computer back exactly the way it was before.

    You can always ask any question's you have in advance of, or during making the back up.

    You can download Macrium Reflect Free version here.
    Macrium Reflect Free


    This tutorial will explain how to use it here.
    Macrium Reflect - Backup Restore - Windows 10 Forums
    Quote Originally Posted by dalchina View Post
    Thoroughly agree with using Macrium.. once you have your first disk images, you can keep updating them. After your first (base) image, each incremental backup you do (before/after significant changes, scheduled... manual...) is smaller and faster.

    An image is a compressed copy of the data on your drive/partition. To back up the set of partitions for Windows, make sure you select Backup, Backup Windows.

    Imaging can save you from
    - ransomware
    - hard disk failure
    - an unbootable PC (hardware faults aside)
    - unrecoverable problems

    by letting you restore your PC to a previous working state without technical help.
    It's also a full backup of your data.
    Images can even be used to help you move to a new PC.
    to both! There are lots of members here who use Macrium, on a regular basis, and know the ins and outs of setting it up and using it. @Irene, if you choose to use Macrium, or any other software, for your backups, you will need a blank DVD or a blank small USB thumb drive to create what's called a Rescue Media. It's not essential right up front to getting backup done, but should be considered in your planning. You can do your backup, and when you have the DVD or thumb drive, create your Rescue Media.

    It's all pretty straight forward. Again, there are many knowledgeable members here who use Macrium on a regular basis. Feel free to ask questions.

    TC
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  5.    12 Sep 2016 #35
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    Splendid information, thank you!
    I will certainly have an alternative PC tuned in to ten-forums before, during and after the update. I have been a member of SevenForum for a long time, so I know what a wealth of knowledge is around.

    However, I suppose we have gone somewhat off topic for this particular thread.
    I know it's only a niggling problem, but the Edge window covers the area where my icons reside. So, any suggestions will be gratefully received.
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  6.    12 Sep 2016 #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irene View Post
    Splendid information, thank you!
    I will certainly have an alternative PC tuned in to ten-forums before, during and after the update. I have been a member of SevenForum for a long time, so I know what a wealth of knowledge is around.

    However, I suppose we have gone somewhat off topic for this particular thread.
    I know it's only a niggling problem, but the Edge window covers the area where my icons reside. So, any suggestions will be gratefully received.
    Your desktop icons or your taskbar icons?
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  7.    12 Sep 2016 #37
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    Thread Starter

    Quote Originally Posted by f14tomcat View Post
    Your desktop icons or your taskbar icons?
    My desktop. It positions on top left with a small border to top and left side.
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  8.    12 Sep 2016 #38
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Arnold, MD
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    Triple boot - Win 10 Pro, Win 10 Pro Insider (2) - (and a sprinkling of VMs)

    Quote Originally Posted by Irene View Post
    My desktop. It positions on top left with a small border to top and left side.
    Try this. Click (left) and hold on the title bar of Edge. You should be able to drag the Edge window around anywhere you want. Holding down the Windows Key and using the arrows should also snap it in various positions. Clicking the taskbar icon once should minimize it entirely, and click again should put it right back. Grabbing the border edge of the window (any border edge) should allow you to resize it by dragging that border.
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  9.    12 Sep 2016 #39
    Join Date : Jan 2015
    UK, Midlands
    Posts : 10,456
    Win 10 Pro (1703)

    We are hoping that the problem will vanish when you upgrade.
    However, plenty report issues following that, so the blurb about Macrium is to prepare you for that. Sure, MS allows rollback, but this is belt and braces- (or maybe the feminine equivalent in this case!)
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  10.    12 Sep 2016 #40
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    I normally use Acronis.
    Would you consider that suitable, or should I perhaps use the alternative which you suggest...

    Maybe I will use both - backed up to my external HD, which is connected by usb?

    In the beginning of Windows 10, I updated the Packard Bell All-in-One desktop, an HP laptop and a dramatic attempt of a Samsung netbook, which failed miserably and I finally recovered back to Win7. The netbook is still running on Win7 and I have no intention of changing it - it was a total nightmare!

    The laptop was a dream of an update. I certainly experienced problems with the Packard Bell, which I consider to be my main PC, and which is the one which I am experiencing the current problem with Microsoft Edge. I think it may be time to pluck up the courage and expose myself again!
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