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  1.    17 Aug 2016 #11
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    Hi:

    Interesting....

    Do you have a link to your thread at the other forum?

    Reason for asking:
    I am using TB email client, my ISP accounts (sender and recipients) and web (gmail recipients) and Exchange (work domain recipients) accounts.
    I do not see the behavior you report, perhaps because I am NOT using Outlook.com or Outlook or WLM or Hotmail or anything "MS", other than the Windows OS.

    IOW, my "BCC:" works just fine from TB from my ISP account to multiple different recipients on different types of domains, with nothing MS-related.
    And I just sent an outbound message from my Gmail account in TB to the same recipients, all "BCC:" and it works fine there, too.
    I haven't tested this on my Win7 boxes, but I do not expect to see a problem.

    Bottom line for me: Tbird sends "BCC:" messages without issue from my ISP account and from my gmail account. "BCC:" stays "BCC:".

    Therefore, the problem must be with the type of account you are using to send the outgoing "BCC:" messages???

    So I guess a cumbersome workaround for you might be to change to an ISP account or a webmail account (such as gmail) for your outgoing messages?
    Either that, or I am having a total "senior" moment and do not understand the underlying problem (which is entirely possible).

    Cheers,
    MM
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  2.    17 Aug 2016 #12
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  3.    17 Aug 2016 #13
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    I do not want to change from outlook.com to my gmail.com account because I would have to inform my entire address book ( who I just got to remember to use outlook instead of hotmail because Microfrickingsoft screwed my hotmail account up) to change back. But I just may have to take your advise and start using my gmail account.
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  4.    17 Aug 2016 #14
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    Thanks for those.

    Yep, it's as I thought.

    And I'm mildly pleased to see that "great minds think alike" -- @DanRaisch is **THE** Mozilla guru (especially when it comes to TB):

    You could set up a new account with Gmail or your own ISP and test using that combination to confirm this.
    I'd keep TB over Hotmail/Outlook any day.
    But I guess you'll need to decide the best workaround for your needs.

    Thanks for the update,
    MM
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  5.    17 Aug 2016 #15
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    No problem and your welcome for the update. You helped me out with my other problem so spreading information to the TB, Firefox users, and Microsoft, community is what these forums are all about. Hope it will help somebody.
    Last edited by evhid1; 18 Aug 2016 at 09:19.
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  6.    17 Aug 2016 #16
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    Hi:

    If you are so inclined, you may wish to mark this thread as "solved".

    I'm glad I could help.
    Cheers,
    MM
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  7.    17 Aug 2016 #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by evhid1 View Post
    Went to the forums.mozillazine.org and as it turns out I'm not the only one having this problem. It seems that Microsoft has dropped some kind of mail handling in hotmail and outlook when using other then Microsoft products. As it sits now if there is enough complaints "maybe" they will fix it. But I'm not holding my breath. This "we must control everything" attitude of Microsoft is really getting bad.
    Actually You can still use your hotmail account, as long as you don't mind sending and receiving all your mail from Hotmails web page. You don't need to download any mail, it stays right on MS server. I never download my emails, I let them stay right on the hotmail's server. From there I can block any junk email that gets to my inbox, with just a couple clicks. But Hotmail does a great job of blocking 90% of the junk mail anyhow. You don't need TB at all. Use a program that is also free that monitors all your mail accounts, up to every 30 sec's, depending on how you set it up. I have always thought its safer to read emails with attachments on an MS sever than on my hard drive anyhow. Hard to get infected if you don't download any mail to your own hard drive.
    I have had my Hotmail Account for at least 12 to 14 years now. Lost track.....Never had a problem. The program that is free and can monitor your email on Hotmail, and tells you when ever you get new mail on your Hotmail account is called Howard. Been using it for a very long time now. It runs on your taskbar and also will display new mail in the Windows Action center. uses very little memory. Is Rock Solid. Maybe you want to give it a shot. I have a Gmail account also....just hardly ever use it. Also have a Yahoo mail account. But my Hotmail account has always been my MAIN email account, and always will be. Here is the link for Howard Email Notifier.
    Howard::Outlook.com / GMail / Yahoo / mail.ru / orange.fr / Lotus Notes Email Notifier - The SZ
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  8.    17 Aug 2016 #18
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    ^^ Sounds interesting, @OldMike65. ^^

    I guess it would depend on how the OP uses his email.
    If he is set up as POP3, not IMAP, an email client is necessary/helpful.
    Likewise, if he has multiple accounts (ISP, webmail, Exchange, etc.), an email client is helpful.
    And the email client offers many customizations and features that naked webmail may not.
    There are other virtues to using an email client vs. webmail, but the OP will need to weigh the pros and cons of changing over from his hotmail to his gmail account, if he wants to have use of the "BCC:" feature.

    For what it's worth I submitted the link to "Howard" that you supplied to VT, and there is one hit:
    https://www.virustotal.com/en/url/0687e81dd2f1c0ef73abbedaae44d934529c64d015cb81a081057002f92c1c94/analysis/1471478844/

    When I did a Google search for "Howard - Outlook" it returned a different URL, which came up with 1 hit + 1 "suspicious" rating:
    https://www.virustotal.com/en/url/5f...is/1471478847/

    I did not download the software or submit it to VT.
    Both the download sites and the software may be safe -- I merely provide the VT info "as is".

    Cheers,
    MM
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  9.    17 Aug 2016 #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoxieMomma View Post
    ^^ Sounds interesting, @OldMike65. ^^

    I guess it would depend on how the OP uses his email.
    If he is set up as POP3, not IMAP, an email client is necessary/helpful.
    Likewise, if he has multiple accounts (ISP, webmail, Exchange, etc.), an email client is helpful.
    And the email client offers many customizations and features that naked webmail may not.
    There are other virtues to using an email client vs. webmail, but the OP will need to weigh the pros and cons of changing over from his hotmail to his gmail account, if he wants to have use of the "BCC:" feature.

    For what it's worth I submitted the link to "Howard" that you supplied to VT, and there is one hit:
    https://www.virustotal.com/en/url/0687e81dd2f1c0ef73abbedaae44d934529c64d015cb81a081057002f92c1c94/analysis/1471478844/

    When I did a Google search for "Howard - Outlook" it returned a different URL, which came up with 1 hit + 1 "suspicious" rating:
    https://www.virustotal.com/en/url/5f...is/1471478847/

    I did not download the software or submit it to VT.
    Both the download sites and the software may be safe -- I merely provide the VT info "as is".

    Cheers,
    MM
    Its a tiny program made a good programmer. There IS NO virus or anything installed in Howard Period!!! I would know real quick if there was, as I have 4 programs that check for things like that. Also like I said, I have been using it FOR YEARS now, and it gets constantly updated all the time. I really don't care what those programs told you. Because its not well known, they are giving it a bad rap in my opinion. It passes on MalwareBytes Pro, Hitman Pro, and SAS, Even Nortons has checked it.....passes on all of them.
    @evhid1
    The user can also install Windows Essentials 2012 which has Windows Live Mail that still runs on our Windows 10 just fine, and WILL download his mail from Outlook.com just fine. So the user does have a choice if he wants one.
    The link for Windows Essentials is below, this is ON Microsoft's site. This is a FREE program.
    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...ows-essentials
    Last edited by OldMike65; 18 Aug 2016 at 06:57.
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  10.    17 Aug 2016 #20
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    Also....I can post where Microsoft even says they have updated Windows live Mail for Windows 10 ....so like I said he has choices. I got Windows live mail running on my 2nd computer. Windows 10 Pro ....no problems.
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