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  1. Joined : Oct 2013
    Penns Forrest
    Posts : 3,506
    Win_8.1-Pro, Win_10.1607-Pro, Mint_17.3
       22 Jun 2016 #1

    New Outlook.com and Windows Essentials Live Mail (WLM)


    16 June was the date MS started migrating Outlook.com accounts to the sync protocol supported by all MS messaging products.

    POP3 and IMAP are still supported.

    Two of my three Outlook.com accounts have been migrated. The symptom on my machine was that I could not connect to the server - sometimes, this just requires trying to connect again or entering your password in the dialog.

    Expecting some transition issues, I tried the above and then visited Outlook.com.
    POP was disabled

    If you use POP3 in WLM, you'll need to configure POP3 support again in Outlook.com after your account has been updated.
    Settings > Options > POP and IMAP

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    I don't have any WLM acounts that use IMAP. The only thing I see that has changed is the server address, but I don't think that is a required change right now though it might be in the future if MS consolidates all servers to one server.
    imap-mail.outlook.com
    Port: 993
    Encryption method: SSL

    The image shows my Outlook.com POP settings, you might not want to allow apps/devices to delete messages. That setting adds a layer of protection - a delete in a client moves the eMail to a special POP folder, you have to visit Outlook.com to actually delete the mail. It's sort of redundant if you configure the client to NOT delete mail on the server, but .....

    Note that the server addresses have changed, the previous pop.live.com and smtp.live.com, ports and secure settings still work though.
    The one interesting change is on SMTP - the secure setting is TLS, not SSL.
    WLM doesn't seem to have a way to specify TLS, but SSL still works for now.

    I also entered the new server addresses (pop-mail.outlook.com & smtp-mail.outlook.com) in my WLM account configuration, but reverted to the previous server addresses (pop3.live.com & smtp.live.com) when that did not initially solve the credentials issue.

    The changes I made to WLM were unnecessary and were only to test what works with the new Outlook.com and what doesn't. There might be some lag between enabling POP in outlook.com and WLM being able to connect/authorize, just try again in a while (my 1st account took about 30 minutes, my 2nd account was almost immediate).

    On my 2nd account, I simply logged into Outlook.com and enabled POP - I did not make any changes to WLM.


    On a side note, it's worth reviewing all settings in the new Outlook.com. I found things that I changed

    Manage add-ons: I uninstalled all that I was allowed to uninstall.

    Offline settings: ???After you turn on offline access, you can use this computer when it's not connected to a network ???
    Great, I was wondering if I could use my computer when it's not connected to a network.

    Under Calendar options, there's this oddity

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    I checked the box and it displayed my time zone. Good for travelers I guess.

    Treat the new Outlook.com as a new eMail client - check all of your settings.
    Additional inofrmation: Set up an email app with Outlook.com - Outlook.com Help
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  2. Joined : Jun 2016
    Posts : 1,385
    Win10 1607
       22 Jun 2016 #2

    I Use WLM12 and I switched my 2 Hotmail Accounts to IMAP earlier this week and it seems to be working fine, AFAIK the advantage is that IMAP lets you see as many folders as you have , not just the Standard POP Folders, and will sync them all. You have to setup a new Account in WLM for each one , so you can set it up to use IMAP , you can't switch the existing account , though they seemed happy to co-exist I then deletd the old account once the new one was fully synced .

    Only downside .....I don't believe IMAP or POP will sync the WLM Calendar though...if you use it. Use Win10 Calendar instead.

    I used these Settings found online.......
    If your email app doesn’t support Exchange ActiveSync, it might use IMAP. Unlike POP, which only syncs your inbox, IMAP syncs all your email folders.
    Use the following settings in your email app.

    • Incoming (IMAP) Server

      • Server address: imap-mail.outlook.com
      • Port: 993
      • Encrypted Connection: SSL

    • Outgoing (SMTP) Server

      • Server address: smtp-mail.outlook.com
      • Port: 587
      • Authentication: Yes
      • Encrypted Connection: TLS (SSL setting works for now anyway)

    • User name: Your email address
    • Password: Your password
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  3. Joined : Jun 2016
    Posts : 1,385
    Win10 1607
       28 Jul 2016 #3


    This is a WLM IMAP Setup Step by Step by 1&1
    ,
    just ignore references to 1&1 and use your own ISP info which should be posted in their Help Section on Email setup :


    https://help.1and1.com/e-mail-and-of...l-a749529.html


    KB
    Last edited by Kbird; 29 Jul 2016 at 11:20.
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  4. Joined : Oct 2013
    Penns Forrest
    Posts : 3,506
    Win_8.1-Pro, Win_10.1607-Pro, Mint_17.3
       15 Sep 2016 #4

    Some references might help

    • Using email in Outlook on the web and Outlook.com

      —Updated August 1, 2016

      Email accounts ending in @outlook.com, @hotmail.com, @live.com, or @msn.com are powered by Outlook.com. In the coming months, Outlook.com will be upgraded with a new look and enhanced performance, security, and reliability. The new Outlook.com will look and act very much like Outlook on the web, which is the commercial email offering available to Office 365 customers.

      While the upgrade is in process, some customers will use the new Outlook.com while others continue to use the legacy experience. How do you know whether your account has been upgraded? Compare your mailbox with the images below.


      This article applies to Outlook on the web and the upgraded Outlook.com experience. If your Outlook.com account hasn't been upgraded yet, see Get help with Outlook.com.


    • Apps that support POP and IMAP

      If you want to add your Outlook.com account to another email program that supports POP or IMAP, here are the manual server settings you'll need.

      IMAP settings Incoming server
      IMAP server name imap-mail.outlook.com
      IMAP port 993
      IMAP encryption method SSL
      POP3 settings Incoming server
      POP server name pop-mail.outlook.com
      POP port 995
      POP encryption method SSL
      SMTP settings Outgoing server
      SMTP server name smtp-mail.outlook.com
      SMTP port 587
      SMTP encryption method TLS

      NOTE: POP access is disabled by default. To enable POP access, see below.

      Enabling POP access in Outlook.com
      If you want to use POP to access your email in Outlook.com, you'll first need to enable POP access:



    You need to enter your full eMail address, not just the name
    Dadzyxwvu@outlook.com - not - Dadzyxwvu

    WLM doesn't do TLS encryption - SSL encryption works.

    Server requires authentication must be selected
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  5. Joined : Nov 2013
    Posts : 211
    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
       21 Sep 2016 #5

    Thanks. I now have Hotmail working in WLM. I first used POP, but didn't get sub folders. Then I switched to IMAP and got them. One thing to note is you can't change an existing account, you have to make a new one.
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  6. Joined : Nov 2013
    Posts : 211
    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
       22 Sep 2016 #6

    Since I've got Hotmail to work with IMAP in WLm, is there anyway to have it just check the in box? Now it searches all my sub folders every tine I check mail It takes a long time.
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  7. Joined : Jun 2016
    Posts : 1,385
    Win10 1607
       22 Sep 2016 #7

    Clint said: View Post
    Since I've got Hotmail to work with IMAP in WLm, is there anyway to have it just check the in box? Now it searches all my sub folders every tine I check mail It takes a long time.
    It is the same for me , I have not tried it but on the IMAP Tab of the Account's Properties you can uncheck Check all folders for new messages , and with luck it will only check the "special folders" in the area below.

    I have renamed my Special folders to match those on Outlook.com so I don't have duplicate folders eg a Sent and Sent Items Folder.

    KB
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  8. Joined : Nov 2013
    Posts : 211
    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
       22 Sep 2016 #8

    Thanks KB. I unchecked all folders. I think that's gonna work. It wouldn't let me rename my folders.
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  9. Joined : Jun 2016
    Posts : 1,385
    Win10 1607
       22 Sep 2016 #9

    Clint said: View Post
    Thanks KB. I unchecked all folders. I think that's gonna work. It wouldn't let me rename my folders.
    Not quite sure what you mean but this is what I have now....

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    But if you move messages in WLM to other folders to archive them check that they get moved on Outlook.com too and not just in WLM on your computer.


    KB
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  10. Joined : Nov 2013
    Posts : 211
    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
       22 Sep 2016 #10

    I was trying to rename in the navigation pane.
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