Windows 10: Another Microsoft strong arm tactic

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  1.    11 Dec 2015 #11

    davidhk said: View Post
    Screw the Mail app.
    I can use my from the web.
    I also got the email.

    I have 10 installed on my old laptop. The Mail app is absolutely hopeless. When I set it up, I was able to link all my ISP and Gmail accounts. But not! So, I set up WLM instead and it works fine on 10, except it seems it will soon be dead?

    I think I will abandon the email accounts and start new ones on Gmail where needed. If WLM dies, then presumably there are alternatives like Thunderbird or one of the others here: 10 Best Email Client Apps for 2015 | Best Windows 10 Apps

    After having to figure out how to extricate myself from the MS Hobson's choice after Win 10 download (Install now or in a couple of days - sorry you can't abort) my main laptop will stay with Win 7 as long as possible.
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  2. davidhk's Avatar
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       11 Dec 2015 #12

    .........I think I will abandon the email accounts and start new ones on Gmail where needed. If WLM dies.............

    I don't think that's what the email said.
    WLM is not going to die, it just won't work with That's how I read it.
    Like I said, I can always use from the web.
    I also have a POP account configured in WLM. That should still work...............I hope.
    If not, I have MS Outlook 2010 lying on shelf ready.
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  3.    11 Dec 2015 #13

    That looks bogus to me, I would start scanning with all your security if you've clicked any of those links.

    Recognizing phishing scams

    Here are some tips to help you recognize when an email is a scam.

    • When the offer seems too good to be true.
    • When the email asks you to send personal or account info (like your user name and password, your date of birth, Social Security number, or bank info) by replying to the email. Microsoft and other legitimate companies will never ask you to provide this sort of info via email. They'll ask you to go to their website to sign in and update your info there.
      Warning: In suspicious-looking email, never click links that supposedly take you to a company website. The sender might be spoofing the website (providing their own fake version) to collect your sign-in info. When in doubt, go to the website using favorites, search history, or by entering the URL in the address box.
    • When the sender’s email address has an overseas domain. For example:,, or
    • When the sender's email address has a domain that's a string of seemingly random numbers and or letters. For example:
    • When the sender’s name in the header doesn’t match the sender's email address.
    • When the tone is personal and confidential, but it looks like a group email, with a generic greeting. For example: “Dear Microsoft Customer” or “Dear Trusted Sir or Madam”.

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       11 Dec 2015 #14

    I haven't seen this yet but something tells me it might be a scam.
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       11 Dec 2015 #15

    The patch is on, so it isn't a scam patch. Update for Windows Live Essentials Mail 2012 (KB3093594)

    It just doesn't actually work
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  6.    11 Dec 2015 #16

    hamnat said: View Post
    The patch is on, so it isn't a scam patch. Update for Windows Live Essentials Mail 2012 (KB3093594)

    It just doesn't actually work
    You would think that Windows update would automatically apply that patch if updates are set up that way. Maybe it will when the time comes?
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  7.    12 Dec 2015 #17

    They are merging to a new Office 365-based infrastructure. It's not something you can volunteer to manually self-opt in to, but eventually everyone will be on the new version (maybe within 6 months). Instead of Hotmail connectors they'll be using Exchange, hence why you need to update Windows Live Mail (and also why older versions of Office Outlook won't be supported, at the new Office 365-based infrastructure won't support Delta Sync).

    There are a couple of FAQ's here:

    Since my account was updated to the Preview, I can access my email on a web browser, but I can’t get to my email from an email client application.

    When your account receives the Preview, you can access your email through any web browser, the Outlook for iOS and Android apps for mobile devices, and Outlook 2010, Outlook 2013, or Outlook 2016 desktop applications for PC and Mac.

    Customers who wish to access their email through the MSN email client, Windows Live Mail or older versions of Outlook desktop applications may not be able to sync their email. The MSN email client and Windows Live Mail application will be updated in future weeks to support Preview accounts.

    For people using Office Outlook, they may also receive an email from Microsoft telling them that they need to remove and re-add their account as an Exchange Account.
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  8.    12 Dec 2015 #18

    I don't see why people want to use software thats 3 years old and is no longer updated (excluding this patch). It could lead to security vulnerabilities.
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       12 Dec 2015 #19

    That is what I cant understand why some members don't want to move forward we are now coming up for 2016 some members it seems still want to use out of date apps.
    Myself I may be a senior citizen but all the systems I look after are all up to day with the latest software and apps.
    Also love the new Mail app as was able to dump a 3rd party app I was using for mail on all my systems.
    Microsoft themselves are now looking to the future.
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  10.    12 Dec 2015 #20

    I moved to gmail so I could easily use it on my mobile devices so I can access it from anywhere.
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