1.    18 Oct 2015 #1
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    Win 10 changed my user name (Mail issue?)


    I am looking around Windows 10 after my Win 7 upgrade.

    I opened the Mail tile and thought I would give it a try. I put 3 accounts into it, one being my Hotmail account. I have decided I will not be using Mail and will stick to my usual routine. I deleted 2 accounts but cannot delete the Hotmail account. I use this account strictly for spam and use a fake name.

    On my next boot up, my user name has changed to the fake Hotmail name and I have to sign in with my hotmail password. Looking at File Explorer, my User name and Dropbox has also changed to that name. If I right click on that user name, there is 'Scan User 1' which is the name I used to use.

    - I want to delete that account on Mail
    - I also want to revert back to User 1 and to not have to sign in. All of my (many) back-ups are User 1 and I am not happy about this
    - another change on boot up is that it starts with a clock and picture, like a screen saver. If I click on any key it will go to the sign in page. I do not have a screen saver in my options and my other laptop does not do this. How can I get rid of that please
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  2.    18 Oct 2015 #2
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    A Finnish expat in Germany
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    Windows 10 Pro

    You can switch back to a local account following these instructions: Local Account - Switch to in Windows 10 - Windows 10 Forums

    Kari
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  3.    18 Oct 2015 #3
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    Switch back to local account? Will this revert everything to the way it was before I put that Hotmail account into Mail?
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  4.    18 Oct 2015 #4
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    A Finnish expat in Germany
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    As you described what has happened, it looks that you have switched your local account to an MS account (accidentally, maybe, but by yourself; Windows does not do it without your acceptance).

    You can check if your user account is now an MS Account by going to Settings > Accounts:

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    According to your post, this is your case. Your original local account has been switched to an MS Account. Following the instructions in the tutorial I mentioned, your original local account will be restored.

    Kari
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  5.    18 Oct 2015 #5
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    The only way this could have happened I think was by adding that account to Mail. I could not delete the account from Mail at all. The next time I booted up the problem started.

    Anyway, I did as you suggested and so far all looks normal. Next I am going to try to delete the Microsoft account. http://www.howtogeek.com/227763/how-to-completely-delete-your-microsoft-account/
    I will wait a few hours first in case you think this will cause major problems somehow.
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  6.    18 Oct 2015 #6
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    I just removed the Microsoft account in Mail. All is well!

    Thank you Kari
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  7.    05 Mar 2017 #7
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    Just for those who find this thread, my current understanding from experience is if you first install Windows 10 and not use a Microsoft email address [with hotmail, outlook or live etc.], but just create a username, then you have created a "Local Account". However as soon as you use Windows 10 Mail with a microsoft email address within your local account, then Windows automatically links that with the local account, and you can use that email address and password to sign into Windows 10, which is then referred to as a "Microsoft Account". Then as you found, which I do not agree with btw, for you do not seem to have any choice in the matter, Windows creates or changes your user folder's name to your email address username.

    If it has a split name e.g., deadly.eddy@notmail.gom, the folder will be named "deadly" without the ".eddy" part, [note that I purposely changed the hotmail with notmail and com for gom for spam purpose]. If the email address has just one word as the username, then the folder will be named that username e.g., a hotmail email address named deadly@notmail.gom the user folder will be named "deadly".
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  8.    05 Mar 2017 #8
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    A Finnish expat in Germany
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    A year and a half since last post, now some wrong information that needs to be corrected.


    Quote Originally Posted by xychromosone View Post
    Just for those who find this thread, my current understanding from experience is if you first install Windows 10 and not use a Microsoft email address [with hotmail, outlook or live etc.], but just create a username, then you have created a "Local Account".
    When installing or setting up a pre-installed Windows 10 Home, Single Language or Pro edition, you can choose if you want to set it up with a local account or a Microsoft account. See tutorial: Windows 10 - Clean Install (step 21 for Microsoft account, step 22 for local account).


    Quote Originally Posted by xychromosone View Post
    However as soon as you use Windows 10 Mail with a microsoft email address within your local account, then Windows automatically links that with the local account, and you can use that email address and password to sign into Windows 10, which is then referred to as a "Microsoft Account".
    Wrong.

    When signed in to Windows with a local account and setting up any Windows app that requires a Microsoft account, user can select if he / she wants to continue to sign in to Windows using the original local account and only sign in to that app with Microsoft account, or to convert the whole Windows user account to a Microsoft account.

    For instance when a local account user sets up an email account in Mail app, setup will show this prompt:

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    User can clearly make a selection, by entering a password and clicking Next user converts his / her current local account used to sign-in to Windows to a Microsoft account.

    However, as is also clearly shown in prompt, user can select "Sign in to just this app instead". Choosing this option would set up Mail app with user's email account but let user continue to sign in to Windows with a local account.


    Quote Originally Posted by xychromosone View Post
    Then as you found, which I do not agree with btw, for you do not seem to have any choice in the matter, Windows creates or changes your user folder's name to your email address username.
    Wrong.

    Windows never changes the user profile name, nor does it change the name of the user profile folder in C:\Users.

    An example: A user sets up Windows 10 using a local account John. His user profile and folder will be named as John. Later on this user decides to convert, switch to a Microsoft account Top.Gamer@AnyEmailProvider.com. He would now sign in to Windows using Microsoft account Top.Gamer@AnyEmailProvider.com but his user profile folder would still be C:\Users\John.

    A bit later the same user decides to switch back to a local account and changes his username to Larry. Now he would sign in to Windows using local account name Larry, but his user profile would still be in C:\Users\John.

    Note   Note
    Name of the user profile remains the original one regardless how many times username will be changed or how many times users switches between local and Microsoft accounts
    .
    Quote Originally Posted by xychromosone View Post
    If it has a split name e.g., deadly.eddy@notmail.gom, the folder will be named "deadly" without the ".eddy" part, [note that I purposely changed the hotmail with notmail and com for gom for spam purpose]. If the email address has just one word as the username, then the folder will be named that username e.g., a hotmail email address named deadly@notmail.gom the user folder will be named "deadly".
    Partly wrong.

    If a new user account is created using a Microsoft account, the user profile name will be a five character abbreviation made from the part of the email address before the @ sign.

    For instance in case of your example, the user profile folder would be named as deadl (five characters). User john.doe@SomeEmailProvider.com would get user profile folder named as johnd, user joe.doe@AnotherEmailProvider.com as joedo.

    However, if user had a local account named as TheMonsterGamer when he switches to Microsoft account xyz@AndAgainSomeEmail.com, his / her user profile would remain as TheMonsterGamer.

    Note   Note
    • Setting up Windows with a local account = user profile folder will be named exactly as user account name, and it keeps this name through all username changes and if user switches to a Microsoft account
    • Setting up Windows with a Microsoft account = user profile folder will be named with a five character abbreviation, and it keeps this name through all username changes and if user switches to a local account
    • Short: user profile name and user folder name will never be changed when username is changed or user switches from local account to a Microsoft account or vice versa

    Kari
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