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  1.    02 Oct 2015 #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldMike65 View Post
    Well Your right about reg cleaners. I do use 3 different ones, also use regedit too if I feel like using it. My programs (3rd party) are registered. If I like a program, I end up buying it. Now after a period of years doing this, I have a lot of registered apps. Glarys thou is one of the few I have not bought, only because he wants money after you buy it, EVERY year. Don't care for that can of registration from a programmer. But its a good piece of software.
    I also run Chrome on my 3 computers. Its my 2nd browser, still have IE 11 as my default. 2 computers run 10 Pro, 1 runs 7 pro.
    No hurry to upgrade my win 7 pro yet.....after Microsoft release our fixpack next month then I will most likely, install 10 pro on my last computer.

    Agreed I still have 7 x64 pro on the mission critical workstation PC here waiting to see what shakes out down the road stability and compatability wise and service pack (or whatever they call it now ) with Win 10 no hurry on migrating that one.

    Win 7 othewise works fine with all the licenced and specific authorized use software and professional outboard gear HDWE drivers on that configuration it has to stay reliable whereas the others can just be clean installed ,re set or whatever rather quickly by comparison.
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  2.    02 Oct 2015 #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by blutos cousin View Post
    Agreed I still have 7 x64 pro on the mission critical workstation PC here waiting to see what shakes out down the road stability and compatability wise and service pack (or whatever they call it now ) with Win 10 no hurry on migrating that one.

    Win 7 othewise works fine with all the licenced and specific authorized use software and professional outboard gear HDWE drivers on that configuration .
    Windows 7 Pro and Ultimate, ran just about rock solid for me for years. I never wanted or installed any version of Windows 8, never liked the look of it, thought it was one of the worse OS's from Microsoft in a while. Now, of course I will get all kinds of hate mail.....lol Later....
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  3.    02 Oct 2015 #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldMike65 View Post
    Windows 7 Pro and Ultimate, ran just about rock solid for me for years. I never wanted or installed any version of Windows 8, never liked the look of it, thought it was one of the worse OS's from Microsoft in a while. Now, of course I will get all kinds of hate mail.....lol Later....
    ha ha me too .......I deliberatley avoided Windows 8/8.1. I got enough of those 2 trainwrecks fixing and configuring PC's for friends and family . IMO Win 10 is much better than those two so is Win 7 ☻☻
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  4.    03 Oct 2015 #14
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    I also agree with it.In my opinion using registry cleaners will always create problems.

    Best way is to make a backup of registry and manually delete the necessary entries.I had to do this for remove some of stubborn malware.
    Third party registry cleaners usually delete good entries too, when they are used .
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  5.    03 Oct 2015 #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amythyr View Post
    I also agree with it.In my opinion using registry cleaners will always create problems.

    Best way is to make a backup of registry and manually delete the necessary entries.I had to do this for remove some of stubborn malware.
    Third party registry cleaners usually delete good entries too, when they are used .
    Not true, and I disagree big time!!! I've been using 3rd party reg cleaners for over the last 10 YEARS, with no problems. Just have to use dependable cleaners.
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  6.    03 Oct 2015 #16
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    I had problems with a dodgy free reg claaner that offered a paid upgrade a couple of years ago ( not CCleaner or Glary ) that was widley reccomended on the usuall PC web zines that was supposed to be real good the latest thing .... ( it wasnt I had to spend some fixing tgime after trying oit out on a perfectly working PC . .)

    TBH it doesent mater if it's free or not they can be dodgy in fact most of the paid ones are scams anyway IMO ..

    You can get CCleaner or Glary free , for free and if you need more than that you either know what ur doing to fix it or re installing or calling someone who does .

    OTOH if I want to make sure I get rid of everthing from something dodgy or worse I always do a manual edit/find ,sometimes I use CCleaner and malwarbytes first but CCleaner doesent always get everything niether does malwarbytes or any resident AV program once it gets by the active shields .

    I dont use CCleaner often it's mostly good for the other tools in there the CCleaner reg clean is OK for lost file fragments and paths and some old .DLL entries on *legitimate software* uninstalls but if something dodgy gets in a manual edit /find works best for me.

    My broad view on Reg cleaners is caveat emptor, alweays export/ back up the reg first and CCleaner is *usualkly safe * but nothing is guaranted and most of the paid reg cleaners are scams .

    OTOH If you get someting nasty and dont know how to use extra strenth one time use virus and malware cleaners and do a regedit /find /delete properly and re build what ever afterwards ur better off re instaklling because the avarage resident AV programsand shilelds dont do much once something nasty gets by them because that usually means they dont know about it yet and by the time they do it's often to late .


    It took most of the resident AV program vendors 6- 9 mo. to get wise to some nasty conflict malware variants that were hosting nasty rootkit malware that I can tell you was no fun to clean out . Luckily it wasnt *this PC * othewise it would have been a clean install Glary ,malwarebyes and CCleaner and the resident AV programs couldent touch that stuff at the time it took 3 one time use extra strength cleaners and a lot of hunting and editing then re buildfing some stuff but the user had some data he didnt want to loose and it wasnt backed up it took a looong time to fix it .
    Last edited by blutos cousin; 03 Oct 2015 at 13:40.
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  7.    03 Oct 2015 #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by blutos cousin View Post
    I had problems with a dodgy free reg claeaner a couple of years ago ( not CCleaner or Glary ) that was widley reccomended on the usuall PC web zines that was supposed to be real good ( it wasnt .)

    OTOH if I want to make sure I get rid of everthing from something dodgy or worse I do a manual edit/find sometimes I use CCleaner and malwarbytes first but CCleaner doesent always get everything niether dowes malwarbytes or any resident AV program .

    I dont use CCleaner often it's mostly good for the other tools in there the CCleaner reg clean is OK for lost file fragments and paths t and some .DLL entries on *legitimate software* uninstalls but if something dodgy gets in a manual edit /find works best for me.

    My broad view on Reg cleaners is caveat emptor, alweays export/ back up the reg first and CCleaner is *usualkly safe * but nothing is guaranted stuff can hapen anytime you screw with the registry and if you dont know how to do an edit/find /delete in there without screwing things up pehaps leave it alone if your PC is running fine or just use CClean at 3- 6 mo intravals .

    OTOH If you get someting nasty and dont know how to use extra strenth one time use virus and malware cleaners and do a regedit /find /delete properly after using those just do a clean install because the avarage resident AV program doesent do much once somethinhg nasty gets by them because that usually means they dont know about it yet and by the time they do it's often to late .
    So many answers to some of this post, but, I'll start with, turn on your spell checker! My spelling sucks sometimes, so mine is always on. lol.

    Hitman Pro seems to work when normal AV types don't, or can't find the bug. Seen lots of MS techs use it. I don't, but I don't seem to get those nasty bugs. Thank God. You must log on some "interesting sites" to get the nasty ones. Grin.

    CCleaner is a VERY MILD reg cleaner, don't think it could do much hard to anyone's puter. Does no deep cleaning what-so-ever!!
    My other two, do but that's why I got em. Ace Utilities has been my long time favorite, but lots of people never heard of it,Glary's ain't bad, for free ware app. lots of features and all fer free too. I also have edited my registry manually too, but not much lately.
    Of course always have a backup, just incase. I have complete image backups, and registry backups. Makes life with Windows a little easier. Plus I play around with all kinds of stuff, tweaking this and that. OR deleting this or that. Heck I think a lot of us do in here. I've been playing on computers for over 30 years now, seen all kinds of mistakes done by ME over those years, but it all part of playing on my puter, and I enjoy doing so. We all do things a little different, makes life interesting I think.
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  8.    03 Oct 2015 #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldMike65 View Post
    So many answers to some of this post, but, I'll start with, turn on your spell checker! My spelling sucks sometimes, so mine is always on. lol.

    Hitman Pro seems to work when normal AV types don't, or can't find the bug. Seen lots of MS techs use it. I don't, but I don't seem to get those nasty bugs. Thank God. You must log on some "interesting sites" to get the nasty ones. Grin.

    CCleaner is a VERY MILD reg cleaner, don't think it could do much hard to anyone's puter. Does no deep cleaning what-so-ever!!
    My other two, do but that's why I got em. Ace Utilities has been my long time favorite, but lots of people never heard of it,Glary's ain't bad, for free ware app. lots of features and all fer free too. I also have edited my registry manually too, but not much lately.
    Of course always have a backup, just incase. I have complete image backups, and registry backups. Makes life with Windows a little easier. Plus I play around with all kinds of stuff, tweaking this and that. OR deleting this or that. Heck I think a lot of us do in here. I've been playing on computers for over 30 years now, seen all kinds of mistakes done by ME over those years, but it all part of playing on my puter, and I enjoy doing so. We all do things a little different, makes life interesting I think.
    Been there and done all that (still do ) I started with Dos and Windows 3.0 /3.1 and everthing in between including overclocking and custom game biulds and serial upgrading and Win NT and some others and Solaris /Unix and SAP/Unix at work for decades .

    I still think most of the paid reg cleaners are a waste of good money but CClean free is generaly safe .

    I've never paid for a reg cleaner or felt I needed to or that cleaning the reg was even all that necissary on windows NT variants like like win 7 through 10 anyway if you arent having problems regardless of what Microsoft allegedly uses or not and we are going back to DOS here so whatever works .
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  9.    03 Oct 2015 #19
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    Well looks like we got lots of old farts on here....good to know blutos Still need to turn on your spell checker. lol
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  10.    03 Oct 2015 #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldMike65 View Post
    Well looks like we got lots of old farts on here....good to know blutos Still need to turn on your spell checker. lol
    We must be bored to death to talk about something as useless as reg cleaners as a rule on a Windows NT kernel OS ☻
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