Alternative to the spam folder for blocking spam gmails?

mngerhold said:

Gmail spam: I have only just noticed that, apparently, anything still in the spam folder after 30 days gets binned automatically - so no action should be needed at all. Has this not been occurring?

I have 9 messages in my spam folder older that 30 days. The oldest from May 6



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Helmut said:

Simple, just go to Spam folder select Emails and delete from the toolbar.

Not a good idea to block them permanently as Spam filters are never perfect.

To train the filter right click Emails and mark as Spam, or as Not Spam if legit ones get into the Spam folder.

It will take a while to work, I can say that as I only get about 4 Spam emails in Gmail in a year and my Account is about 12 years old.

Don't waste your time trying to block or making up your own filters as this will not work. Spammers just change the faked from addresses etc.

x509 said:

I use Outlook as my desktop email client, with my ISP Comcast/Xfinity. (they do a so-so job of filtering spam.)

For a long time, I tried to block spam senders. Then one day I looked at the list of blocked senders. Ridiculous. The spammers constantly change domain names, sometimes the secondary name only. e.g. joeshithead@A.garbage.com and then joeshithead@B.garbage.com. Or else some ridiculously long name, but then use the same name with many different domains.

For a while I tried editing the list, but it was a fool's errand. Spammers have gotten very sophisticated.

Then someone told me about Mail Washer for Outlook. It works but requires attention to each specific email, a real time-waster. Easier to just delete spam that Comcast doesn't filter out.

Sad, but true.

Anonymizing phishing expeditions. It never occurred to me, but makes perfect sense. So, that's that, we just have to live with the annoyance. No real workarounds. I'll just have to empty the folder on a regular basis

Thanks so much.

Helmut said:

the fact they were not deleted after 30 days may mean that Gmail thought they were legit. The marking of such Emails as Spam/Not Spam will deal with that, filter training may take months.

I must not be interpreting this correctly. So even if they are sent to the spam folder, they are not marked as spam?

kreemoweet said:

There really isn't any point in messing with Gmail filters to deal with unwanted messages, unless you're getting spam that is not recognized as such by Gmail. All you can do is "delete" them, which sends them to your Gmail Trash folder, the contents of which count as part of your Google account storage usage. Regular manual purging of the Spam and Trash folders is the only thing that works. "Automatic" deletion does not always happen. And as for "training" the Gmail spam filter, all I can say is that I have been marking non-spammy emails from a certain source as "Not Spam", for several years now to no effect. And contrariwise, I marked all unwanted commercial messages from a source
as spam for a long, long, time without any change until I manually created a filter to do so.

Thanks for the response. All I'm curious about at this point is, If I designate an email(s) as spam, and then delete it from the spam folder, will Gmail still regard it as spam?

mngerhold said:

Well, you have been told that already

Instead of scolding me, and this is not the first time, you could have just answered me "Yes" or "No".

mngerhold said:

- but if they have been deleted, who cares what they are marked as? The point of marking something as spam is to help the email server learn what spam looks like.

Being the admitted ignorant novice that I am, I may be challenged when it comes to interpreting the technical concepts and jargon offered by experts such as yourself.

Once again, what I need clarified is the following, acknowledging that the question does and cannot apply to the bad actors out there who have the ability to generate random, fake credentials.

An example that would apply to my question is, i.e., I happen to have this site that I set up for push notifications. But it turns out that I was getting flooded with notifications and emails from them on a daily basis, and there was no way to alter that behavior, so I sent the the messages to the spam folder.

All I'm seeking to know is, if they are removed from spam, will they still be forwarded to my spam folder, or revert to non-spam status and be found in my inbox, going forward?

I don't know about the emails. Maybe unsubscribe it the option exists when you open a problem email. Sometimes there's an unsubscribe link in the email.

Push notifications: Revoke permissions.

Web Push notifications in Firefox | Firefox Help

Instructions for other commonly used browsers:
Malwarebyres Blog. Browser Push Notifications - A Feature Asking To Be Abused

It's better to remove the offending website rather than blanket block all notifications unless you never want to see them from any website.

Callender said:

I don't know about the emails. Maybe unsubscribe it the option exists when you open a problem email. Sometimes there's an unsubscribe link in the email.

Push notifications: Revoke permissions.

Web Push notifications in Firefox | Firefox Help

Instructions for other commonly used browsers:
https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/ne...g-to-be-abused

It's better to remove the offending website rather than blanket block all notifications unless you never want to see them from any website.

In that particular case, I tried everything. I wanted to reach some sort of compromise. Had no choice but to spam it.

if you're getting emails because they have your email address then it's hard to stop. If you're getting pop up notifications because you gave the website permission via your browser see Firefox (Expand) down to step 7 here:

https://www.mcafee.com/support/?loca...l=article-view

Ignore that it mentions Macafee. The instructions to block or remove a website in Firefox are listed.