MS Edge is a Security Concern

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  1. Posts : 305
    Win 10 - 21H1
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       #11

    Marie SWE said:
    yeah you really have to work for it to keep the crap outside.
    I have debloated my VM even more then that printscreen.. only Firefox is left on that list now.
    I have removed more than I can remember, MS support have no way of connecting to my machine, even when they send the old method client system. It just sits connecting forever. I removed Windows defender, I still have the firewall but not the security centre thing. No telemetry, as far as I believe. In some cases I removed a bit too much but I got click happy in MSMG Toolkit, which is my new most favourite thing ever.

    I used to be with you on Win7, I used it in a VM not so long ago and honestly hated it, the Aero Glide thing is still great. I have grown to like Win10 (the auto driver download and install is great, my graphics card doesn’t start until Windows does so that is a huge help to me) but it takes me around a week to remove the stuff I don't want. Start menu, remove the ribbons from everywhere, I especially hate the tabbed-ribbons, who hides tools behind tools for the one reason you made the icons larger. My workflow is bit by bit everything at once, not just the text, then just the formatting, then just the photos.

    In the past when MS support could connect to my machine, not once did they every believe me I had Win10, they were sure I had Win8 and didn't know what I was talking about.

    I don't see any adverts on my OS, I have pro, could that be the case? You're right, I reckon all Microsoft stuff should be free now, they literally haven't made anything new in 20 years, especially with Office, for the last 20 years they have been destroying Office-2003, best thing they did was add safe to PDF in 2010, I think.

    I used OSX for the last ten years, to be fair, it does just work but there's not much you can do to tweak it. I was happy to go back to Windows, now imaging my thoughts when I read about Windows OSX, oops, Windows 11. A huge no thanks in a millions years to that, I'll go back to a slate and a rock before I ever use Win11.
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  2. Posts : 17,015
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
       #12

    This thread is a continuation of
    Discussion MS Edge and security

    Denis
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  3. Posts : 305
    Win 10 - 21H1
    Thread Starter
       #13

    Fabler2 said:
    I think the fact that you checked your ms account email, regardless of the browser used, is the issue. Still not good.
    I can check all day long in Firefox, no problem. But use Edge, problem. Well, the funny thing is, for me, it's not really a problem, it's the person who owns the laptop who's problem it is. The fact it is potentially so easy to innocently ask someone to check your email on their machine and then potentially track them, that is not good. Worse, it is expected behaviour as far as MS is concerned, they programmed it like that. Why would they do that?

    Only Edge has the system access to gather the data, Firefox can't as far as I know. Checking email is something we should be able to do with no risk, I checked in a browser in someone else’s account on a laptop. I didn't make a new user account on the laptop, install Outlook and connect that way. It was in a web browser. MS blamed me for this of course as I should have used an incognito window, oh, and not checked my email. Tell that to the thief, just don’t steal next time. It is huge risk and far, far worse than the Internet Explorer thing. I think that’s why Edge is system service, it’s not a browser, it has to be on the machine, we are forcing people to use it….
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  4. Posts : 305
    Win 10 - 21H1
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       #14

    Try3 said:
    This thread is a continuation of
    Discussion MS Edge and security

    Denis
    Thank you, Dennis. Yes it is. It is also my last attempt to bang the drum about this. I am fine, I know enough and am happy to delete anything and can look after myself. It's the people, the 99% out there who have no idea how easy it would be to have someone track you, and MS know this, they set it up like that, they have an article about it online. Not sure what it is but the fact it is somewhere out there means I should know about it to.

    They don't get it, the device can be deleted and it was my action that added the device. That's my point, the owner of the computer has zero choice in all this. Everything is on me, to do the right thing, which of course I have and I will, but that's not everyone.

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  5. Posts : 282
    Windows 10 Pro
       #15

    One day this with all get fixed with the chip implant...
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  6. Posts : 2,294
    Linux:Debian, Kali-Linux... 2xWin8.1,1x7Pro, Retro:1x2003server.1xXPpro, 1xW2k,1x98SE,1x95,1x3.11
       #16

    TidySean said:
    I have removed more than I can remember, MS support have no way of connecting to my machine, even when they send the old method client system. It just sits connecting forever. I removed Windows defender, I still have the firewall but not the security centre thing. No telemetry, as far as I believe. In some cases I removed a bit too much but I got click happy in MSMG Toolkit, which is my new most favourite thing ever.

    I used to be with you on Win7, I used it in a VM not so long ago and honestly hated it, the Aero Glide thing is still great. I have grown to like Win10 (the auto driver download and install is great, my graphics card doesn’t start until Windows does so that is a huge help to me) but it takes me around a week to remove the stuff I don't want. Start menu, remove the ribbons from everywhere, I especially hate the tabbed-ribbons, who hides tools behind tools for the one reason you made the icons larger. My workflow is bit by bit everything at once, not just the text, then just the formatting, then just the photos.

    In the past when MS support could connect to my machine, not once did they every believe me I had Win10, they were sure I had Win8 and didn't know what I was talking about.

    I don't see any adverts on my OS, I have pro, could that be the case? You're right, I reckon all Microsoft stuff should be free now, they literally haven't made anything new in 20 years, especially with Office, for the last 20 years they have been destroying Office-2003, best thing they did was add safe to PDF in 2010, I think.

    I used OSX for the last ten years, to be fair, it does just work but there's not much you can do to tweak it. I was happy to go back to Windows, now imaging my thoughts when I read about Windows OSX, oops, Windows 11. A huge no thanks in a millions years to that, I'll go back to a slate and a rock before I ever use Win11.
    I love discussing privacy and security. But this is the wrong corner of the forum.
    But i get you.
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  7. Posts : 1,243
    Windows 10
       #17

    Fabler2 said:
    I think the fact that you checked your ms account email, regardless of the browser used, is the issue. Still not good.
    But it is really no different than you borrowing your friend's android phone, checking gmail on chrome browser --- they are going to remember you or you are going to remember them. Your friend's android phone is going to show up on your google account history.

    So it's not really just a microsoft issue.

    The OP just happens to use firefox that nobody uses --- which has its own problem of mozilla always lacking in funding.
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  8. Posts : 1,257
    Windows 10
       #18

    TidySean said:
    In the past when MS support could connect to my machine, not once did they every believe me I had Win10, they were sure I had Win8 and didn't know what I was talking about.
    I have said this in the past a big majority of tech support don't actually know anything. Anyone who knows some basics could find out very easy, three tools that would of told them straight away.

    winvir
    msinfo32
    dxdiag


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    Computers have been becoming the lesser of two evils for a while just do your due diligence which i can see you are trying to do but basically pick the lesser of two evils is something that i follow anytime i do something on the computer.

    Microsoft is also a monopoly and an industry leader which hold the biggest market share for Operating systems, they have all incentive to do some crumby things, there is quite a few things they do which we can opt out of but those that don't realize these things which will be in the millions of users are unknown to these facts.

    Some people just don't realize the ramifications of stuff like this and because computers are so convenient now some might not even care.
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  9. Posts : 1,243
    Windows 10
       #19

    TidySean said:
    In some cases I removed a bit too much but I got click happy in MSMG Toolkit, which is my new most favourite thing ever.

    In the past when MS support could connect to my machine, not once did they every believe me I had Win10, they were sure I had Win8 and didn't know what I was talking about.
    You could have just been honest with Microsoft tech support that you used 3rd party tools to slim down windows os.

    There is no need to "convince" anyone. Just tell them plainy that you used a bunch of 3rd party tools to rip out quite a few portions of windows os including the edge browser so the telemetry is not going to tell tech support anything useful.

    But of course nobody in your situation would tell tech support that you may have caused all these problems in the first place.
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  10. Posts : 56
    Windows 10 Home
       #20

    Malneb said:
    Microsoft is also a monopoly...
    Microsoft does not fit the definition of a monopoly.
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