Outlook 2003 and Gmail after May 2022

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  1. Posts : 280
    Win 10 Pro 21H2 (OS Build 19045.3636)
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    Outlook 2003 and Gmail after May 2022


    I have a couple of friends both using Outlook 2003 quite happily accessing both their ISP's email (but moving away from that ) and their Gmail accounts. They're in their late 80s and have no desire to update Outlook/Office or to spend money, as they see it, unnecessarily.

    By the end of month, as I understand it, their Gmail accounts won't work as currently set up. It'll be necessary to use 2FA and application specific passwords.

    I've searched the Tutorial index but can't find anything. Is there a simple guide how to do it?

    I use 365 so that was easy to set up to access Gmail.
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  2. Posts : 706
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    There is no need for 2FA. Authorization may take place by OAuth 2.0
    I doubt whether outlook 2003 provides this authorization method. In that case you may switch to the use of Thunderbird. When properly set up, there will be no change in procedure for 'these old guys'.
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  3. Posts : 16,956
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
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    tpriest said:
    ... Outlook 2003 quite happily accessing both their ISP's email (but moving away from that ) and their Gmail accounts.
    I'm also using an old Outlook [2007] so I set up my GMail account to forward everything to my main ISP. Since you are doing something about that main ISP ["moving away"] perhaps forwarding GMail will fit in with your existing plans.
    - The only problem I found was that I set forwarding up but then had to return to it later to 'enable' the forwarding setup. Perhaps I had merely not noticed that checkbox the first time round.
    - This will only resolve receiving GMail so sending it will remain a problem for which they would probably have to use their online GMail account instead of Outlook.


    Best of luck,
    Denis
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  4. Posts : 149
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    Check out this article. In particular, this user's response and the referenced link:


    I just managed to connect an Outlook 2016 to a @gmail.com account via IMAP by

    1. enabling 2FA and then
    2. using an app password generated from my Google account.
    Enabling 2FA automatically disables "Less secure apps" meaning that it should remain working after May 30.

    Working with app passwords is explained here: Sign in with App Passwords - Google Account Help
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  5. Posts : 280
    Win 10 Pro 21H2 (OS Build 19045.3636)
    Thread Starter
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    Thanks for that, it's the simplest method/explanation I've seen.

    Will go over to change their PCs when I'm back from holiday.
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  6. Posts : 280
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    A further question if I may.

    Does using an (Outlook) app password have any effect on being able to access the email account via Chrome browser using the original password?
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    tpriest said:
    A further question if I may.

    Does using an (Outlook) app password have any effect on being able to access the email account via Chrome browser using the original password?
    I'd say not, I have both a Gmail account and accounts from my ISP and my Domain. But there is a bit of difference between the Outlook program/app that is part of Microsoft Office and the Outlook.com Webmail.
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  8. Posts : 3,514
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 21H1 (May 2021 build 19043.1083)
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    Hello!
    I'm using Outlook 2010 at work and I could not access our Gmail accounts because it is considered an outdated out-of-support insecure application. However, I went to our account settings using a browser, went to security section and there is an option to let less secure applications use the email. Once you enable that you can access the Gmail with Outlook 2010, not sure for earlier versions. Of course by all means avoid 2FA! Never do that mistake, if you still can avoid it.

    Now I would like to ask something else. One friend of mine has a company email which using a browser can be accessed using RoundCube email client, and is also blocked for Outlook 2010. He has no access to the server to change the security settings. Is there another workaround? Assuming there is not and he must upgrade to a newer Office version, do you know which is the newest version supported for Windows 7? As far as I know Office 2019 requires at least Windows 10. It would be better/cheaper to upgrade to an Office version than 2019, or he should upgrade to Windows 10 and use Office 2019? Any more advanced fellow here to help? What would you do?
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  9. Posts : 16,956
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4170
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    spapakons said:
    I'm using Outlook 2010 at work and I could not access our Gmail accounts because it is considered an outdated out-of-support insecure application. However, I went to our account settings using a browser, went to security section and there is an option to let less secure applications use the email. Once you enable that you can access the Gmail with Outlook 2010, not sure for earlier versions. Of course by all means avoid 2FA! Never do that mistake, if you still can avoid it.
    Yes, that currently works.
    And, yes, it also works for Outlook 2007.
    But it all stops on 30th May. That's the point of the OP's question.


    spapakons said:
    Now I would like to ask something else. One friend of mine has a company email which using a browser can be accessed using RoundCube email client, and is also blocked for Outlook 2010. He has no access to the server to change the security settings. Is there another workaround? Assuming there is not and he must upgrade to a newer Office version, do you know which is the newest version supported for Windows 7? As far as I know Office 2019 requires at least Windows 10. It would be better/cheaper to upgrade to an Office version than 2019, or he should upgrade to Windows 10 and use Office 2019? Any more advanced fellow here to help? What would you do?
    He should upgrade to Windows 10. It is a supported OS.
    The "secure" Outlooks are, as Google said in the email they sent all users, Outlook 2019 onwards or, in other words, not Outlook 2016 or earlier.
    Google said:
    Email software, like Outlook 2016 or earlier, has less secure access to your Gmail. Switch to Office 365, Outlook 2019 or newer, or any other email software where you can sign in using Sign in with Google.





    All the best,
    Denis
    Last edited by Try3; 16 May 2022 at 07:31.
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  10. Posts : 3,514
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 21H1 (May 2021 build 19043.1083)
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    OK, I get it. The workaround works until May 2022 that they will disable it. Let's hope that we will still have the option to avoid 2FA. If we do, hopefully the "allow less secure applications" feature might still be there, albeit without allowing you the change state (hopefully stuck in enabled).

    PS: In web browsers you can spoof the User Agent, that is you can pretend using Firefox or Chrome, while you use Edge, for example. Is there anything similar to change the apparent version of Outlook? Could we pretend using Outlook 2019 by changing some values in Registry, so we are allowed to access Gmail in Outlook 2007/2010 ?
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