Windows Update installed Edge. Can I safely Uninstall it?

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  1. Posts : 78
    Windows 10 Home (22H2)
    Thread Starter
       #21

    Bree said:
    I started with testing Macrium - I also stopped testing at Macrium as I could find no fault with it
    Since I was coming from Norton Ghost,
    and knowing what a quality software it is,
    I did not want to stick with something that might not be the best option for that purpose,
    so I invested the time and work in checking several ones..


    Also it's not just some nice small utility.
    It's something that you give the life of your computer installation to.
    So you want it to be a really good and trustable one.



    Bree said:
    I have fond memories of Norton Ghost
    Me too.

    It can still be used today, it still works..

    But for "offline" images, you have to boot to DOS,
    and for DOS, you need to change the BIOS from UEFI Mode to Legacy (BIOS) mode.
    (and when finished, change back to UEFI again.. or.. partition your disk as MBR instead of GPT, and save all this hassle)


    Bree said:
    and of their Ghost Walker for exploring the images and retrieving individual files.
    Ghost Walker?
    In my package it's called Ghost Explorer..


    Bree said:
    The one feature in Macrium that I'm using increasingly often is the ability to boot an image file as a virtual machine with viBoot.
    Nice,
    that's something I haven't done yet - all this SystemImage<->VM interchangeability.
    (doesn't Windows scream, when it is ran inside the VM, that the computer/motherboard changed?
    between your real physical computer, and the Virtual Machine's hardware)
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  2. Posts : 31,611
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #22

    spaceman5 said:
    ...Ghost Walker? In my package it's called Ghost Explorer...
    I misremember (it's been a long time) yes, GhostWalker was for changing the SID of a cloned machine...
    that's something I haven't done yet - all this SystemImage<->VM interchangeability.
    (doesn't Windows scream, when it is ran inside the VM, that the computer/motherboard changed?
    between your real physical computer, and the Virtual Machine's hardware)
    Windows, even earlier versions is very good at sorting out new drivers should it find itself running on dissimilar hardware. This one took about a minute or so to create and get this far....

    Windows Update installed Edge.  Can I safely Uninstall it?-image.png

    ...the image was of a Win7 laptop with an AMD V120 cpu, now finding itself unexpectedly running on a Hyper-V machine with an Intel i7-4600U.

    No, hardware isn't a problem - activation is the only real one, but will not kick in for a while. For a quick look at what is on the image, or to test that the image is viable, then the grace period is sufficient.

    For a longer term VM I wouldn't want to use viBoot in any case, I'd boot the VM from an ISO of the recovery media and restore to the VM from the system image. A VM requires its own licence (each VM has a unique hardware ID, just like a physical machine) so you'd either need to have a spare key you could use or, for a Win10 VM, restore to a VM that already has a digital licence. To that end I never delete a Hyper-V VM that I have activated for W10 after I have finished using it, rather I remove its virtual hard drive then export the machine so that I can import it and reuse it later. That's the equivalent of swapping the HDD from another physical machine into one that already has a digital licence for that edition of Win10.
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  3. Posts : 78
    Windows 10 Home (22H2)
    Thread Starter
       #23

    Really cool.


    Bree said:
    Windows, even earlier versions is very good at sorting out new drivers should it find itself running on dissimilar hardware.
    Except the Disk Drive driver..
    You need to delete the specific driver of your current disk, and switch to the Generic one, before moving the disk to a different machine (physical, or virtual).

    Move Windows XP Hard Drive or Change Motherboard Without Getting a Blue Screen STOP 7B Error • Raymond.CC



    Bree said:
    A VM requires its own licence (each VM has a unique hardware ID, just like a physical machine)
    ...
    To that end I never delete a Hyper-V VM that I have activated for W10 after I have finished using it, rather I remove its virtual hard drive then export the machine so that I can import it and reuse it later. That's the equivalent of swapping the HDD from another physical machine into one that already has a digital licence for that edition of Win10.
    So in terms of License association, Windows does not care to remember the Disk Drive..
    Nice to know that..

    Is there a difference in how Windows identifies a machine between a real physical computer and aVirtual Machine?
    Does Windows have different code for each of these 2?

    For example, in VMs, to get the HW-ID like you mentioned,
    and in Physical Computers, to get something from the Motherboard..
    (I remember that in Windows XP it was the Motherboard Model.. You could change motherboard to a new one, as long as it is the same model..)
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  4. Posts : 7,606
    Windows 10 Home 20H2
       #24

    spaceman5 said:
    But it is a 1GB of waste of my SSD..
    674 MB in my case with auto-updates disabled.

    Windows Update installed Edge.  Can I safely Uninstall it?-edge-size.jpg

    Windows Update installed Edge.  Can I safely Uninstall it?-edge-version.jpg
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  5. Posts : 78
    Windows 10 Home (22H2)
    Thread Starter
       #25

    Matthew Wai said:
    with auto-updates disabled
    How do you disable updates in a way that actually works in Windows 10?
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  6. Posts : 7,606
    Windows 10 Home 20H2
       #26
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  7. Posts : 78
    Windows 10 Home (22H2)
    Thread Starter
       #27

    Wow,
    didn't know such an option exists..
    Will read it now, thank you.
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  8. Posts : 7,606
    Windows 10 Home 20H2
       #28

    I use the following code in a CMD script to disable automatic Edge updates.
    Code:
    SC config "edgeupdate" start=demand & For /F "Tokens=1* Delims=" %%# In (
    'SchTasks /Query /FO List^|Find "EdgeUpdate"') Do (
    Schtasks /Change /Disable /Tn "%%$")
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  9. Posts : 92
    Windows 10
       #29

    I'd just mention two things that this thread has missed. You most definitely can uninstall the new Edge, even on 20H2. Microsoft also provides policy files (for the Local Group Policy editor) that you may be able to use to block Edge from updating/installing in future.

    First, here's a short powershell script:
    Code:
    cd (Get-Item "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\*\Installer\setup.exe").DirectoryName
    .\setup.exe --uninstall --system-level --verbose-logging --force-uninstall
    Save that as a .ps1 file somewhere, and make a shortcut to powershell.exe -ExecutionPolicy Unrestricted -File "Path\to\your\script.ps1" and set the shortcut to run as admin. That will correctly uninstall the new Microsoft Edge. Keep the shortcut somewhere convenient in case it ever comes back in an update, that way it can be quickly uninstalled next time. If you're on an earlier version of 20H2 Legacy Edge will now be usable, but as of the current cumulative update Legacy Edge has now been disabled (it will still be in the start menu unfortunately, but is non-functional).

    If your edition of Windows 10 is Professional or greater you can then install the policy files from here: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/edge...G8&OCID=MO12G8
    You can use these to disable updates, the auto-update check, and disable the installation of Edge itself. Technically Microsoft says these only work for domain-joined computers, but anecdotally this has prevented Edge from being re-installed after a cumulative update on my Windows 10 Pro machines when it was re-installed on my non-Pro installations without these policies set.
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  10. Posts : 78
    Windows 10 Home (22H2)
    Thread Starter
       #30

    Thank you xtcrefugee

    It's amazing how Microsoft is doing everything to make it more difficult to people..
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