How to update Edge manually? (with blocked Windows update)

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  1. Posts : 474
    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit 20H2
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    How to update Edge manually? (with blocked Windows update)


    I use Sledgehammer and Edge doesn't update automatically. As its update service is not running, as result of automatic Windows updates being blocked. And I don't want even to allow them, even once, so Windows doesn't install crappy drivers for my devices! I update manually!

    There is also another thing: I can update Edge manually, by starting edge and click on update. But I want to deny Edge permissions so it can't start on my PC. It may start automatically after and update anyways. But I want prevent it from running randomly. So if its permissions are denied, I cannot open Edge and update manually. So how do I update Edge then? Changing permissions each time is too annoying! Even with like bat file, you have to click that icon each time and then after update another to disable it again...

    I don't know if Edge starts randomly. I Am currently logging process startup on my PC will see. So maybe there is no need to block Edge... Problem is maybe it could run under other process, in which case it would be hard to spot!

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  2. dalchina's Avatar
    Posts : 31,294
    Win 10 Pro (1903)
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    Hi, Sledgehammer says:
    * If you choose to use the Store, you can enable update service in Configurator.
    After using the Store, then either 1) disable update service or 2) continue script to
    check for Windows updates with WuMgr or WUMT after which the update service will be
    disabled."
    To update Store apps you need to enable the Windows Update sevice temporarily:
    How to update Edge manually? (with blocked Windows update)-1.png

    I believe this does NOT mean there would be a scan for other updates.

    I don't know anything about your setting Edge permissions so can't comment on that.
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  3. Callender's Avatar
    Posts : 4,316
    20H2 64 Bit Home
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    @dalchina

    I think that you are correct. However I would add that if using Option [E] then it's certainly possible to update Windows using third party tools other than the built in (into Sledgehammer) WUMT & WuMgr.

    Example:

    Sledgehammer running. Update via PatchFluent:

    How to update Edge manually? (with blocked Windows update)-sledgehammer-2.jpg

    How to update Edge manually? (with blocked Windows update)-patchfluent.jpg
    How to update Edge manually? (with blocked Windows update)-patchfluent-2.jpg

    Same goes for other third party update utilities. However Sledgehammer must be left running in the background.
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  4. Posts : 474
    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit 20H2
    Thread Starter
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    dalchina said:
    To update Store apps you need to enable the Windows Update sevice temporarily:
    But how do I update Edge? Edge is not in the Store under downloads, or installed apps!

    Edge is updated normally by its service/process. Maybe if I enable Windows Update Service temporarily, and run edge update service: it would update.

    And then I have to check Edge version in power using:
    Code:
    Get-AppxPackage | Select Name, PackageFullName
    I guess I will have to find out, if temporarily enabling Windows Update Service wouldn't update all my drivers. Problem is I Am afraid, it won't update 1 time anything. And then maybe there will be scheduled task, or something and it will update some drivers - I don't even know about!

    I don't want to even enable Windows Update Service ever!

    Maybe I leave edge unblocked and will update Edge from inside of Edge manually... Will see yet, if it is starting randomly...

    - - - Updated - - -

    To add: Sledgehammer has to enable Windows Update Service to use WuMgr for manual update. I don't know, if this is same. There are many Windows Update services. I don't want to risk it, that it would update something automatically!
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  5. dalchina's Avatar
    Posts : 31,294
    Win 10 Pro (1903)
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    Hi, you could try this:
    How to update the new Microsoft Edge web browser manually (works 100% of time) - gHacks Tech News

    which explains how to download an Edge msi file.


    Sorry, you're correct that Edge isn't in the Store, being treated as part of the O/S in a way. I was trying to illustrate the need to enable updates you need to change Sledgehammer settings.

    I don't understand why you are denying yourself this way of updating it.
    How to Manually Update the New Microsoft Edge
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  6. Posts : 474
    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit 20H2
    Thread Starter
       #6

    dalchina said:
    Hi, you could try this:
    How to update the new Microsoft Edge web browser manually (works 100% of time) - gHacks Tech News

    which explains how to download an Edge msi file.


    Sorry, you're correct that Edge isn't in the Store, being treated as part of the O/S in a way. I was trying to illustrate the need to enable updates you need to change Sledgehammer settings.

    I don't understand why you are denying yourself this way of updating it.
    How to Manually Update the New Microsoft Edge
    I updated right now, but I will try manually later, once I see update. Again thanks for your great help!

    - - - Updated - - -

    Oh wait. I don't know how often this is updated: I have 89.0.774.48
    And in this catalogue is last 83 from 7/14/2020 !!!
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  7. dalchina's Avatar
    Posts : 31,294
    Win 10 Pro (1903)
       #7

    Glad it worked. If you choose to go that way, you'll just have to check periodically.

    For example, this appears to be updated:
    https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/Dep...notes-security

    - but that's just on the basis of me searching for you.
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  8. Callender's Avatar
    Posts : 4,316
    20H2 64 Bit Home
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    empleat said:
    To add: Sledgehammer has to enable Windows Update Service to use WuMgr for manual update. I don't know, if this is same. There are many Windows Update services. I don't want to risk it, that it would update something automatically!
    It never updates anything automatically. If you ever want to update you run a manual check and install whatever updates you want to install (after researching those updates first) or just run Sledgehammer to fully disable all updates then forget it. Windows will not update - ever.

    Read the help file maybe:
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  9. Posts : 474
    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit 20H2
    Thread Starter
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    Callender said:
    It never updates anything automatically. If you ever want to update you run a manual check and install whatever updates you want to install (after researching those updates first) or just run Sledgehammer to fully disable all updates then forget it. Windows will not update - ever.

    Read the help file maybe:
    Ok good. Question is, if Edge update service would automatically update Edge then? If I enabled Windows Update service temporarily in Sledgehammer. As that catalogue site is outdated, I have 89 and there is 83 from 2020 as newest version! And from Dalchima link, last stable with security updates is 89. So that site is clearly outdated.
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  10. Callender's Avatar
    Posts : 4,316
    20H2 64 Bit Home
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    RE: Edge updates. I'm not up to speed with the new Edge and have avoided it like the plague until very recently (last week) when I clean installed 20H2 and kept Edge installed. It updates via the method posted earlier in this thead even with everything Windows Update disabled.

    From my machine just now. A manual update check:

    How to update Edge manually? (with blocked Windows update)-edge-manual-update.jpg

    I guess that if a cumulative update targets the operating system to update or integrate Edge related features then you wont get those updates with windows update disabled.
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