How to update Edge manually? (with blocked Windows update)

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  1. Posts : 443
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       #31

    Yeah but Edge updates are already stopped by Sledgehammer, that was not point! Point was how to update Edge manually, when you deny all its permissions in properties/security tab and auto updates don't work.
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    The thing is that Sledgehammer does not stop Edge Chromium updates in 20H2. At least not for me. Those Edge Chromium updates don't seem to be delivered by Windows Update. I guesss that maybe legacy edge updates are delivered that way but I don't have legacy edge.
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    Callender said:
    The thing is that Sledgehammer does not stop Edge Chromium updates in 20H2. At least not for me. Those Edge Chromium updates don't seem to be delivered by Windows Update. I guesss that maybe legacy edge updates are delivered that way but I don't have legacy edge.
    Strange Edge update service was previously running on the background all the time. After Sledgehammer it doesn't. I updated manually in Edge to 89 as I said, so I don't have legacy Edge!!!
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    Well I just manually ran an Edge Chromium update and it worked but neither of those services started.

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  5. Posts : 443
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    Callender said:
    Well I just manually ran an Edge Chromium update and it worked but neither of those services started.

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    Again what do you mean manual Edge Chromium update? We already talked about this. Yea manual update works from inside Edge, when I click on About, or something... And what with it? Don't understand what you are talking about.
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    What am I missing?

    How to update Edge manually? (with blocked Windows update)

    I seem to be able to manually update Edge with Sledghammer blocking windows updates.

    Which is exactly what you asked isn't it?
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  7. Posts : 443
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    Callender said:
    What am I missing?

    How to update Edge manually? (with blocked Windows update)

    I seem to be able to manually update Edge with Sledghammer blocking windows updates.

    Which is exactly what you asked isn't it?
    Yeah but I said: I want to deny its permissions so it won't open. And I don't want to even open it. We already established that Weird. I also said: that maybe I don't need to block it, but I didn't find yet how to log startup of all processes in Windows. Using Windows tools only!
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       #38

    Did you start scheduled task manually to start update? (after handicapping and imposing your restrictions on edge so that it's not allowed to do anything)

    I didn't find yet how to log startup of all processes in Windows. Using Windows tools only!
    Using built in tools only you would use event management console.
    To do so you need to enable auditing of processes.

    To enable process auditing press windows key and type gpedit.msc and run as Administrator
    Expand: Computer config / Windows settings / security settings / local policies / audit policy
    Here enable audit process tracking

    You can find process tracking events in event viewer.
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    empleat said:
    Yeah but Edge updates are already stopped by Sledgehammer, that was not point! Point was how to update Edge manually, when you deny all its permissions in properties/security tab and auto updates don't work.
    When you update Edge manually via "about Edge" it just checks for and downloads the latest version without needing to use windows updates therefore Sledgehammer has no effect on blocking that.

    If you want to update manually via Windows Update then you'd need to visit the ms update catalog and download the latest version of Edge.

    https://www.catalog.update.microsoft...ch.aspx?q=edge

    Then temporarily enable windows update service in Sledgehammer (Option E) and install the downloaded update from command line which is pretty pointless because the manual update method does the same thing without needing to enable windows updates.

    If you want to kill Edge for some reason then add whatever entries you need (your choice) from an elevated powershell prompt:

    Code:
    reg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Image File Execution Options\MicrosoftEdge.exe" /v Debugger /t REG_SZ /d "%windir%\System32\taskkill.exe" /f
    
    reg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Image File Execution Options\msedge.exe" /v Debugger /t REG_SZ /d "%windir%\System32\taskkill.exe" /f
    
    reg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Image File Execution Options\MicrosoftEdgeUpdate.exe" /v Debugger /t REG_SZ /d "%windir%\System32\taskkill.exe" /f
    
    reg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Image File Execution Options\MicrosoftEdgeUpdateBroker.exe" /v Debugger /t REG_SZ /d "%windir%\System32\taskkill.exe" /f
    
    reg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\MicrosoftEdge\PhishingFilter" /v "EnabledV9" /t REG_DWORD /d 0 /f
    Then disable Edge update services and scheduled tasks.

    With that I am done with this thread unless someone else can step in and make sense of what is required.
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  10. Posts : 443
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    zebal said:
    Did you start scheduled task manually to start update? (after handicapping and imposing your restrictions on edge so that it's not allowed to do anything)
    Using built in tools only you would use event management console.
    To do so you need to enable auditing of processes.

    To enable process auditing press windows key and type gpedit.msc and run as Administrator
    Expand: Computer config / Windows settings / security settings / local policies / audit policy
    Here enable audit process tracking

    You can find process tracking events in event viewer.
    I did exactly this and it did not work! I filtered 4688, 4689 (could be wrong) don't remember exact numbers from head! And it showed only 12 process per day...
    Callender said:
    W If you want to update manually via Windows Update then you'd need to visit the ms update catalog and download the latest version of Edge.
    https://www.catalog.update.microsoft...ch.aspx?q=edge
    OK thanks, this would work I guess. Now I have latest version - so I can't try it. Maybe uninstall and try to update it later. Don't feel like doing this right now...

    EDIT: I found procmon can do that! Will check if something from edge is running EVER...
    Last edited by empleat; 3 Weeks Ago at 08:38.
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