How to update Edge manually? (with blocked Windows update)

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  1. hdmi's Avatar
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       #111

    Matthew Wai said:
    Perhaps a new option has been added into the new version, which is different from my old version, which has been stopped from being automatically updated to the new version, which could have a new option that is absent from my old version, which is not the same as the new version, which should have been installed on Windows as long as automatic updates have not been disabled.
    That's one of the reasons why I choose to install updates. It's so everyone else except those who refuse to update can understand what in the name of some kind of spiritual entity it is that the vast majority of users are trying to discuss.
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  2. Matthew Wai's Avatar
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       #112

    There are users who want to control Windows Update although the vast majority are controlled by Windows Update.
    There are users who use non-English Windows although the vast majority here use English Windows.
    The top member here uses 1903 although the vast majority have upgraded to a newer version.
    Last edited by Matthew Wai; 2 Weeks Ago at 05:39.
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  3. hdmi's Avatar
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       #113

    Ask yourself questions like how exactly were you planning to find out if an update will break your computer if you refuse to install the update anyway in the first place. Even if I did run into serious ploblems that I couldn't easily fix even after I decided to uninstall an update─which just never happened to me so that's also my main point here─then there's still always Acronis. The only real annoyance is that the automatic update installation procedure running in the background can cause the cooling fan of my laptop to spin up during those moments when I simply don't want that, along with the fact that it can slow down performance on older hardware. Which is completely fixed by setting the connection as metered. There used to be a time when a bigger worry was that automatic updates could, in some certain cases, perform an unsollicited reboot. But then, I did manage to fix that one also. Not that I expect anyone would still care about that solution today, as the problem no longer exists on any version of Windows 10 that is even just a little bit recent of course, but, just to get a point across, here's how I did that:


    • to disable:


    Code:
    cd /d "%Windir%\System32"
    takeown /F MusNotification.exe
    icacls MusNotification.exe /deny *S-1-1-0:(X)
    takeown /F MusNotificationUx.exe
    icacls MusNotificationUx.exe /deny *S-1-1-0:(X)

    • to enable:


    Code:
    cd /d "%Windir%\System32"
    icacls MusNotification.exe /remove:d *S-1-1-0
    icacls MusNotification.exe /grant *S-1-1-0:F
    icacls MusNotification.exe /setowner "NT SERVICE\TrustedInstaller"
    icacls MusNotification.exe /remove:g *S-1-1-0
    icacls MusNotificationUx.exe /remove:d *S-1-1-0
    icacls MusNotificationUx.exe /grant *S-1-1-0:F
    icacls MusNotificationUx.exe /setowner "NT SERVICE\TrustedInstaller"
    icacls MusNotificationUx.exe /remove:g *S-1-1-0
    The bottom line is, if you are worried about what are the languages I use, then I must urge you to go and visit a doctor because, clearly, what you are now experiencing are severe symptoms of what they call a control issue.
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  4. Matthew Wai's Avatar
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       #114

    That savours of a personal attack.
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  5. Posts : 443
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       #115

    hdmi said:
    That's not what I said. Instead, Windows Update occasionally replaces an old update with a new version of it that uses the same exact KB number. WUMT does not do this, which means you'll end up having missed the new update. And that is very much regardless of whoever it was who told you not to listen.
    Interesting, even Matthew said it is not true. I can use his script, he re-iterated on Sledgehammer and made script, based on core of the Sledgehammer. And update with Microsoft Catalogue, so WUTM would be out of play. So there should be no issue in this case.
    Using CMD script and VBScript to control Windows Update

    That savours of a personal attack.
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  6. Posts : 97
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       #116

    I'm losing track of point in this thread.
    1. OP has now received several ways of manually updating Edge. I, too, provided one.
    2. We had our usual discussion on how much Windows 10's Windows update is inferior to what we had in Windows 7,with less options to control it and it, in some cases automatically installing driver updates with no trivial way to selectively choose which updates should be installed.
    This is clearly a step back, sure, but what is the question? Does OP need any more help? I'll check to see if there is anything I can do, then I'm unsubscribing.
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  7. Posts : 443
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       #117

    We started discussing various ways to update edge and that lead to discussing Windows update. Then Hdmi said Sledgehammer doesn't work correctly. So I was asking, if Matthew's script would work... If I can use that, why not, if Sledgehammer could have issue, even Matthew said it is not true.

    Also I couldn't yet test updating Edge through microsoft catalogue, because last time I tried update from Edge. So now I Am waiting for new updates, before I can try that.
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  8. Matthew Wai's Avatar
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       #118

    empleat said:
    And update with Microsoft Catalogue, so WUTM would be out of play. So there should be no issue in this case.
    Using CMD script and VBScript to control Windows Update
    In most cases, you can use the scripts without WUMT. When you see a pop-up, click on "No". Run "# Updates found by VBScript.vbs" to view the titles. Copy the KB numbers and paste them onto Microsoft Update Catalog. However, in a recent case, VBScript found a new version which was not yet available in Microsoft Update Catalog.

    See the recent case in this post: Using CMD script and VBScript to control Windows Update

    The user used WUMT to install the new version, which is still absent from Microsoft Update Catalog today.
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  9. hdmi's Avatar
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       #119

    empleat said:
    Interesting, even Matthew said it is not true.
    He's the type who acts as if anyone who has observed the opposite of that─and who hasn't earned a ton of rep on here─must have been completely daydreaming about it. I am a software developer myself, and, where I am coming from, if your plan is to claim a certain level of reliability, then you better show your test results to support your claim─not the other way around. Specifically, I am a Java Enterprise developer. In situations where I cannot hide my personal details, it means I am forced to call myself a consultant because if I call myself a Java Enterprise dev, it creates the false impression, that I am looking for a new job. Java Enterprise technology, otherwise known as EJB, is what all the largest corporations have been using to secure their main IT investment. The reason why we typically earn more money than your average Microsoft .NET dev who has an MCSD is because we're rather scarce, and the smaller companies can't afford to pay us. Normally I would refrain from explaining all this. It doesn't make me feel like I am superior or anything like that. Even, if the information I gave is making certain people jealous. Maybe this wasn't part of the answer that you were looking for. But then, you kind of asked...
    I can use his script, he re-iterated on Sledgehammer and made script, based on core of the Sledgehammer. And update with Microsoft Catalogue, so WUTM would be out of play. So there should be no issue in this case.
    Using CMD script and VBScript to control Windows Update


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    You are free to use whatever it is that you prefer. What you decide to use isn't going to change my knowledge of the fact that Windows Update occasionally offers an update that neither WUMT nor the VBScript can successfuly detect, as Windows Update scans for newly available updates in a fundamentally different manner than WUMT, the VBScript, WuMgr and WAU Manager. Again, matching all the various KB numbers to what you have installed does not provide any real guarantee of never missing a new update. And that is regardless of whether missing a new update might have no further consequence. What factually matters is that, without doing any serious testing, you'll just probably never know. The only thing you do know is that people who promote "tech" (between quotes) articles generate web traffic. The kind of web traffic that generates high dollar revenue streams, that is. Farming the bigger number of popular subscriptions/votes very often is contrary to providing the more reliable information. It's an old trend.

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    ish4d0w said:
    I'm losing track of point in this thread.
    1. OP has now received several ways of manually updating Edge. I, too, provided one.
    2. We had our usual discussion on how much Windows 10's Windows update is inferior to what we had in Windows 7,with less options to control it and it, in some cases automatically installing driver updates with no trivial way to selectively choose which updates should be installed.
    This is clearly a step back, sure, but what is the question? Does OP need any more help? I'll check to see if there is anything I can do, then I'm unsubscribing.
    I agree with you. This thread is just another clear example of what they call a bottomless pit.
    Last edited by hdmi; 2 Weeks Ago at 03:22.
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  10. Matthew Wai's Avatar
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       #120

    A Java employee is putting an advertisement for the company.
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