Browsers forget passwords since 2004 update

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  1. Posts : 8
    Win 10 21H1
       #1

    Browsers forget passwords since 2004 update


    Issue is the subject line. Since recently allowing my computer to install 2004, my browsers, primarily Opera and Vivaldi, tend to not remember passwords to commonly used sites. These are just generic sites like dpreview that I visit every day. I retype my passwords, they seem to stick and then the next day or so I find I've been logged out and the passwords are gone again. For now I've reverted back to 1909.

    Has anyone else seen this?
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  2. Posts : 3,679
    Windows 11 Pro 64 Bit 21H2
       #2

    1. Uncheck the Setting "Offer to save passwords I enter on the web" (found in Settings | Privacy & security)
    2. Close the browser and re-open it.
    3. Check the Setting "Offer to save passwords I enter on the web"
    4. Refresh Settings Tab
    5. Refresh the Site/Page for which you want to store the password. Enter the username and password.

    Now you should see the prompt to store the password in Opera's password manager.
    Opera doesn'''t offer to remember passwords | Opera forums
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  3. Posts : 8
    Win 10 21H1
    Thread Starter
       #3

    OK, thanks, I'll give it a shot but it will be a few days.

    PS: Sorry to have posted originally in the wrong section, didn't see the dedicated area for browsers.

    - - - Updated - - -

    As a footnote to above, it's not that Opera doesn't offer to save passwords, it's that it loses the passwords it's saved. Vivaldi seems to have the same issue although I don't use it as much. Firefox, so far, seems to be immune.
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  4. Posts : 161
    Windows 10
       #4

    I know it might be counter to what the resolution you are seeking but there is a really good reason why software developers, especially developers who make software that has privacy and security implications, are implementing features like this. And it's because they increase your overall privacy and to a certain degree security as well. It's long been considered risky to have a computer running these days with an environment that has no policies on maintaining a decent standard of privacy and security. Way back when it was cool to give your computer as much information as possible because that's what everyone got told they were there. True. But no-one really knew, or wanted to admit, that eventually all this information would be used in ways that are not very positive and beneficial to the end user. And with the revelations of the past decade still ringing in the ears of developers worldwide it's become a critical mission to ensure their products can provide basic sanitisation features so that users can guarantee to a fairly high degree of confidence the data they provide software like browsers will not be willingly thrown into the air attached to a giant balloon with a target painted on it. And that is historically the sad reality of much of the software we have used. Much of it unfortunately hasn't been fit for purpose in the way that the software wasn't designed at it's core to protect the user. Today that is changing.

    It's no different to when you would use a computer at a library. If the system administrators know anything at all they will ensure each individual session is cleared before the next user can login. Sometimes this involves a full restart so that everything including the memory can be wiped and so that files which were in use can be freed and any data related to them removed.

    To get around features like this you can maintain your bookmarks and then use a password manager to login to any sites you have accounts with. That way no data pertaining to sensitive informaton ie username, password etc remains after the browser exits but you still have that information available at the click of a button and typing in your master password whenever you want to login to your favorite websites.

    Ultimately, it's a good feature and whether it's hard to accept or not (much like lots of changes in society) it genuinely has been implemented to help you and protect you that little bit more so that you're not an easy target for privacy violating agendas as well as a considerable boost to security. Both are genuine threats. Both can be minimized that little bit more by ensuring data is cleared as often as possible.
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  5. Posts : 8
    Win 10 21H1
    Thread Starter
       #5

    supermammalego said:
    I know it might be counter to what the resolution you are seeking but there is a really good reason why software developers, especially developers who make software that has privacy and security implications, are implementing features like this.
    I'm sorry but no, this losing of saved passwords is not a feature. With the latest versions of the browsers in question running on 1909, there is no issue. The same is not true of 2004 for whatever reason.
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  6. Posts : 207
    Windows 10
       #6

    I'm sorry but no, this losing of saved passwords is not a feature. With the latest versions of the browsers in question running on 1909, there is no issue. The same is not true of 2004 for whatever reason
    I've been using Win 2004 since the new update was released and had No Issues with loosing passwords
    Using Edge Chromium

    Are you clearing browser data - And have passwords checked by mistake
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  7. Posts : 8
    Win 10 21H1
    Thread Starter
       #7

    I'll double check but I've never had the settings configured so that they cleared passwords before. Thanks.
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  8. Posts : 161
    Windows 10
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    ho72 said:
    I'm sorry but no, this losing of saved passwords is not a feature. With the latest versions of the browsers in question running on 1909, there is no issue. The same is not true of 2004 for whatever reason.
    You'll find that it is in most browsers nowadays. If you don't think it is then it's likely a bug or the browser installation (in some way) has become corrupted. Check the bug tracker and/or contact the devs if you're really concerned and especially if it keeps happening even after configuring the browser to remember personal data. You'll probably find someone else has reported the same issue and if not you're helping them to highlight a new issue that can be fixed in the next release. Generally speaking, yes, browsers are now slowly coming towards a new standard in enhancing privacy and to a smaller extent security and this is basically going in a direction that seems backward to most people seeing as the new standards are implying less as being more. Less personal data stored on the computer the more benefits you reap.
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  9. Posts : 1,602
    Windows 7 Home Premium x64
       #9

    ho72 said:
    I'm sorry but no, this losing of saved passwords is not a feature. With the latest versions of the browsers in question running on 1909, there is no issue. The same is not true of 2004 for whatever reason.
    losing of saved PWs is a bug in 2004, ho72 (and supermammalego) - reported a few weeks ago, wait for new fixes coming from MS and for affected browsers:

    Windows 10 May 2020 Update makes Google Chrome forgetful, logs out everywhere [Update] - Neowin

    Windows 10 May 2020 Update is causing login problems in Chrome, Edge, OneDrive and more

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  10. Posts : 8
    Win 10 21H1
    Thread Starter
       #10

    erpster4 said:
    losing of saved PWs is a bug in 2004, ho72 (and supermammalego) - reported a few weeks ago, wait for new fixes coming from MS and for affected browsers
    Excellent. Thanks for the help.
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