I always have to sign in to check email

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  1. Posts : 18
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       #11

    Callender said:
    You can use Firefox password manager if you like:

    Set it to remember passwords and auto login.

    Firefox. Tools> Options> Privacy and Security

    Also check cookie clearance settings.

    If you have installed any kind of system optimizer or system cleaner types of program - check settings for those.

    Check system clock here:

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    Callender. My pc is set to receive cookies. No system optimizer. I use CCleaner and ATF Cleaners. Settings are fine on those. Question? How do I find Tools in Firefox? I have checked Privacy and Security though. Thanks again.
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       #12

    Well enable menu bar.

    Right click here - a blank area above the address bar and enable menu bar. Tools is one option listed in the items that will appear.

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    The thing is - don't run those cleaners or let them monitor/ autoclean for a day or two and see if you still get the problem.
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    Earth1957 said:
    Callender. My pc is set to receive cookies.
    You need to check that they're not deleted (cleared) when uou close the browser.

    I'n not using Edge so can't help with it but there's settings on what to keep/ clear somewhere.
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    Here's Firefox cookies being deleted when I close the browser because that's how it's set. (Clear on close)

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    Try whitelisting yahoo cookies in Ccleaner;


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       #15

    There is some additional ino here:

    Why Yahoo Mail Doesn't Keep You Logged In
    How to stay signed in to Yahoo Mail on any device

    Could be that you're using private browsing mode.
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  6. Posts : 18
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       #16

    Callender said:
    There is some additional ino here:

    Why Yahoo Mail Doesn't Keep You Logged In
    How to stay signed in to Yahoo Mail on any device

    Could be that you're using private browsing mode.
    Hi Callendar. It is announced on my home page Edge Currently AT&T that there is a problem with "Keep Me Signed In For 2 Weeks" There is a blue banner on the Home Page that says just that. So they know the problem. Anyway some time ago I did a System Restore back to an earlier time, but that didn't fix the problem. I also did two registry fixes to make sure "In Private Browsing" was turned off. I did it for Edge and Internet Explorer both. Gave both a value of "Zero" to fix that. So now I am just waiting for AT&T to fix their "Keep Me Signed In For 2 Weeks". I'll give it some time. Thanks Callender.
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       #17

    It sounds like it's something beyond your control then.

    Thanks for letting us know.
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  8. Posts : 80
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       #18

    If the email provider you are with says they have recognised the same issue you're having then that explains all there is to know and/or do. Because you only have access to the front-end ie your own personal account, and not the back-end ie where all the stuff happens and is maintained by the company there is nothing you can do except wait until they find a fix. It could one of many issues and it would be futile to comment on it because it's something completely out of view for everyone except those who run the website and make sure people can access their emails.

    You mentioned in your post you use CCleaner. CCleaner removes Firefox data when you run and scan and then clean the system. It will delete pretty much ALL personal information and this includes cookies. The reason behind this is because cookies are known to be used not just as bits of information that a website can access and use to keep you signed in and to save settings, but also to track you around the web. They do in many ways become a theoretical homing beacon that tell websites which own the cookie where you have been, for how long, what you clicked on, what time, date, etc. They do this because a website asks your browser if it has anything that came from the website (ie a cookie in this example). Your browser replies with a "Yes" and then allows the website to access this cookie. Because your browser said "Yes" in doing so your browser has basically reported your relative location on the internet. The website accessing this information will then know what website you have open and potentially any information you've entered. When you visit another website which uses the same cookie again the same process happens and your browser does the same thing; allows the website to learn about your current browsing session.

    When these cookies are removed there is no conversation between website and browser because the website is looking for something that doesn't exist, and so it cannot report anything back to the company that owns the theoretical homing beacon. Alas, this is a basic understanding of tracking on the internet. When a website puts a cookie on your computer and you run CCleaner the cookie only stays there for as long as you keep the browser open. As soon as you either close your browser and/or run CCleaner the cookie deleted. And as you can probably guess, this means no carry-over to the next session which means the trail runs dead in terms of tracking you with that specific cookie. More can be put on your computer but you can configure your browser to refuse third-party cookies that are often used for tracking. You can also prevent websites from accessing features built into your browser which tell websites things like whether they can access your microphone, location, camera, store data offline to be stored indefinetly (this is the intention regardless of whether it is stored this long or not) and many other things.

    It's big business today tracking people around the internet and while being able to sign-in to your most used services is a good thing other cookies which are not as inocuous and privacy invasive will also want to remain on your computer. After all, what you are referring to when you talk about remaining signed in for a number of weeks is the use of a cookie being stored on your computer which then tells the website, in the same way as as I mentioned above, there is information the website can use stored on your computer. This information tells the website you want to stay signed in for a number of weeks, the website acknowledges this request and viola, you stay signed in.

    And so a way around this would be to whitelist certain cookies from being wiped when you close your browser and/or use CCleaner. You do ideally want ALL OTHER cookies to be removed because it really is bad news what is possible when bits of information can be stored on your computer in this way, especially when you often are not in control of what IS being stored and from WHERE. Without settings in place to prevent websites from having full access to your browser, or at least enough to do whatever they want, you will be followed around the internet. It is literally like someone putting a GPS beacon under your car bonnet and being freely able to know where you are and where you are visiting when they ping the device. In this case, when the device is pinged is when you visit a website that wants access to the cookies mentioned above (the bits of data stored on your computer).

    If you're using Firefox I recommend an extension called CAD (Cookies Auto Delete). It's a great free and safe add-on you install and it works straightaway removing cookies from your browser. The thing is, it also works in reverse. It will also save certain cookies you add to the whitelist. So, things like your email account etc can all be saved and pending you prevent Firefox and CCleaner from removing cookies by themselves everything except from your email (and others if you so wish to add them) will be removed. To tell Firefox to not remove data you can go to Options > Privacy & Security > Logins and Passwords. Now tick the box that says "Ask to save logins and passwords for web sites". Also, Options > Privacy & Security > History > Remember browsing and download history. Also, untick in this section the box that says "Clear history when Firefox closes".

    Furthermore you can add exceptions (rules that tell Firefox NOT to do something it usually would) by going to Options > Privacy & Security > Cookies and Site Data > "Manage Permissions...". Now simply add the website address of for your email account and Firefox should now add it to an exception list which means it will avoid the particular websites you've added to it. Also, untick the box which says "Delete cookies and site data when Firefox is closed".

    I have to warn you that configuring Firefox in this way (and another browser) is not recommended. If you want to remain automatically signed in you are probably safer and more private doing so with an app installed on your computer. All email providers today have their own email apps you can install on your computer. Failing that, you can setup an email client (a program for your emails) on your computer like Outlook, Thunderbird etc which keeps you logged in but which doesn't expose you intentionally to browsing the internet through your web browser and storing information on your computer along the way. Information you probably don't and wouldn't want if you understood what is was there for. And 9 times out of 10 most cookies these days are not there to help you browse your fave websites easier.
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