I want Windows Mail to work in Win-10

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  1. Posts : 803
    Win10 Pro - x64 latest build dual boot w/Win 11 Pro
       #11

    Yes, I agree. I no longer use it and paid to get OEClassic Pro which is new software looking like Outlook Express which was VWM's predecessor.
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  2. Posts : 7,254
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
       #12

    You could set up VMware/Virtualbox and install the OS of the period, perhaps the client will work in properly.
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  3. Posts : 1,807
    Windows 10 Pro 21H1 19043.1348
       #13

    I recently installed Thunderbird on my Mom's PC and so far it seems great. You can access config files to change fonts, font size, colours, folder icons and a few other tweaks to keep my 79 year old Mom happy.

    Besides a bit of a learning curve for her and with a few quick assist sessions, I haven't heard any complaints. She's pretty quick to point out anything that isn't straight forward and easy to use, trust me. ;-)

    I use Outlook 365 and am considering ditching it for Thundebird. Some of the tweaks are a bit of a PITA to locate but the interface is clean and the functionality much better than Outlook with excellent context menu controls for everything.

    Also, it's very simple to export your config settings and all email content to a protected drive. Then you're ready for Micro$oft surprises and can quickly restore.

    It might be worth a look and remember, without much effort, you can transform it to look like the old Outlook Express.
    I may even have some of the tweaks recorded, if there's any interest.


    Keyboard Shortcuts TB | Thunderbird Help
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  4. Posts : 7,254
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
       #14

    W10 Tweaker said:
    I recently installed Thunderbird on my Mom's PC and so far it seems great. You can access config files to change fonts, font size, colours, folder icons and a few other tweaks to keep my 79 year old Mom happy.

    Besides a bit of a learning curve for her and with a few quick assist sessions, I haven't heard any complaints. She's pretty quick to point out anything that isn't straight forward and easy to use, trust me. ;-)

    I use Outlook 365 and am considering ditching it for Thundebird. Some of the tweaks are a bit of a PITA to locate but the interface is clean and the functionality much better than Outlook with excellent context menu controls for everything.

    Also, it's very simple to export your config settings and all email content to a protected drive. Then you're ready for Micro$oft surprises and can quickly restore.

    It might be worth a look and remember, without much effort, you can transform it to look like the old Outlook Express.
    I may even have some of the tweaks recorded, if there's any interest.


    Keyboard Shortcuts TB | Thunderbird Help
    I agree, Thunderbird is more likely to keep working in the future.
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  5. Posts : 231
    Windows 10 Home 21H1
       #15

    Just to leave this here as a kind of warning for the late visitors: no one should really use Windows Vista Mail anymore. It was a nice software, yes I know, but it is extremely outdated and has various exploits. Just think of it's age: it probably runs some kind of embedded Internet Explorer engine to display HTML content. You really don't want to run something 10+ years old for anything that connects to the internet.

    So as this thread is practically closing, should anybody in the future find this thread: just don't.

    Instead, switch to Thunderbird, OE Classic, eM Client or anything but not Windows Vista Mail. Same goes for Windows Live Mail, that needs to be ditched permamently too. That is, too, retired legacy software, not suitable for online usage in 2020+.
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  6. Posts : 11,247
    Windows / Linux : Arch Linux
       #16

    Hi there

    @TechnoMage

    Of course you could always run Win XP as a Virtual Machine (or even use W7 as a VM ) and then use OE or windows mail again !!!

    Just use the XP system for email client -- on a VM XP performs far faster than it ever did back in the days when it was still a current OS. Uses a tiny amount of resources and it still works perfectly. It's a shame Ms gave up OE as it was an ideal email client, simple , no limit to number of accounts, IMAP and exchange servers supported etc etc.

    I want Windows Mail to work in Win-10-screenshot_20210210_160358.png


    If you are paranoid about security just only allow OE to make connections to Internet.

    @ish4d0w

    These email clients use standard commands to logon to email server, and retrieve emails - they don't need any "leaky browsers" to perform their function.

    For example here's one below to demo the principle --no browsers / html of any kind is needed.

    Although this is a Linux command - same is available on WSL on W10 or might also be an equivalent script -- example of sample script to get your ip address (external) and email it to yourself so you can tell companies like teamviewer to "stuff it"


    #!/bin/bash
    # Send email from bash
    # hrafn simple script to send simple email with your IP address (external)

    read -p "Enter SMTP email server address: " server
    read -p "Enter SMTP Port: " port
    read -p "Enter Your Email Address: " from
    read -p "Enter Recipient's Email Address: " to
    # get your public IP address
    myip="$(dig +short myip.opendns.com @ReSolver1.opendns.com)"
    # create message
    function mail_input {
    echo "ehlo $(hostname -f)"
    echo "MAIL FROM: <$from>"
    echo "RCPT TO: <$to>"
    echo "DATA"
    echo "From: <$from>"
    echo "To: <$to>"
    echo "Subject: Testing SMTP Mail"
    echo " "
    echo "Your public internet address is "
    echo $myip
    echo " "
    echo "finished"
    echo "."
    echo "quit"
    }

    mail_input | netcat $server $port || err_exit


    Don't forget to finish the inline text with the "." line before the SMTP quit command.

    Using this method doesn't require the use of an email server or client on the host (you will need to read the email of course to see the content !!)

    This should also render those programs like dyndns etc unnecessary too.

    After you have the ip address it's simple to communicate / logon to the remote computer -- use RDP / Putty or whatever.


    Cheers
    jimbo
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  7. Posts : 17,838
    Windows 10
       #17

    My suggestions:

    • eM Client

    • Mailbird

    • Thunderbird

    (Haven't tied OE Classic, but it looks pretty good)
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  8. Posts : 231
    Windows 10 Home 21H1
       #18

    jimbo45: I'm very sorry to disagree. You've got a valid point, it's a perfectly fine way to run these apps BUT these old email viewers are HTML rendering-capable and they are also able to load remote images. That makes them extremely vulnerable and they sure have known vulneralibities. It is easy to construct a payload that attacks them. If that is combined with a legacy system like XP, there is no antivirus that could prevent the disaster this can turn into because these vulneralibities give instant access to system memory, with admin rights. XP was very much undeveloped in this regard. Even Vista was a lot better than that but ofc. as of today, that is considered to be compromisable too. As is 7 sadly. (Man, I did love Win7 so much, I'm a bit sad that support ended for it)

    As much as I loved WIndows Vista Mail and I hate that Microsoft decided to get rid of it in WIndows 7, I missed it a lot. But it is time to move on. A virtual machine is not an ideal solution because it may protect you from compromising the whole machine, it could, however, still compromise your emails and therefore sensitive information.

    But, as for a technical perspective, the solution is good - it is definitely possible to run it inside a VM, even natively if somebody is very keen on that. I just wanted to warn everyone that I really don't recommend this in a live situation, for anything other than testing.


    On OE Classic: I did try that and it worked great. That one is great. Also eM and Thunderbird are excellent too
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