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  1. Posts : 26
    W10
       #1

    Mail not sending!


    Eventually decided to ‘retire’ my tried, trusted and tested 11-year-old XP computer and dive into Windows-10...for general use😉

    Struggling just a tad with the (not so) subtle differences between XP and W10 especially with the email element!
    Old habits die hard...

    I have created the 'people' name and e-mail address details and tried to send a mail to my full contact list (18 contacts) as 'bcc' but the result was an incoming message as follows...

    "We weren't able to send this message, so we've put it in your Drafts folder. Before you try sending it again, you can check to see if the address is correct and that no attachments are too large."
    There was no attachment... just a few lines of text.

    Do I have to select a specific address in the To: box?
    With my previous OutlookExpress in XP I was able to send as an entire 'bcc' .

    Any advice would be appreciated,
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  2. Posts : 42,985
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #2

    Hi, which mail program are you using?

    It does take a little while to create an account in an email client, assuming that's what you are using.

    A screenshot or so might help.

    Not that the Mail client in Windows is more limited than OE was. (I gave up on MS email offerings after OE was dropped, the Win Mail...)
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  3. Posts : 26
    W10
    Thread Starter
       #3

    Thanks for your input...

    I am using the 'default' Mail programme as shown in the W10 task bar.

    Incoming mails are OK!
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  4. Posts : 42,985
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #4

    Hi, I don't use Mail, so hopefully someone who has this configured may reply. Note too that you can't back up or bulk export emails stored by Mail.

    You might find this interesting ref. bcc, as it both indicates you can send solely bcc, but indicates other related issues:
    win 10 mail not showing BCC of my sent emails - Microsoft Community

    (Of course there are continual updates, so the issue mentioned there may have been resolved by MS).

    To me it points back to this being a limited client.
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  5. Posts : 2,734
    Windows 10
       #5

    At a guess the Windows 10 Mail App and the linked People App are being used.
    Rather similar arrangement to Outlook Express and the Windows Address Book of Windows XP.

    You have probably fallen foul of increased security by trying to send bulk Emails to 18 contacts at the same time. This could be due to the Email providers measures against Spammers, or limitations in the Mail App.

    A simple mailing experiment might sort out which it is.

    You may have to go to whoever is your Email provider by the Webmail method and consult their Help pages on the subject.

    Windows 10 Mail App is limited as a Mail client, for bulk Emails something like MS Outlook the desktop application would be more suited.
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  6. Posts : 26
    W10
    Thread Starter
       #6

    Helmut said:
    At a guess the Windows 10 Mail App and the linked People App are being used.
    Rather similar arrangement to Outlook Express and the Windows Address Book of Windows XP.

    You have probably fallen foul of increased security by trying to send bulk Emails to 18 contacts at the same time. This could be due to the Email providers measures against Spammers, or limitations in the Mail App.

    A simple mailing experiment might sort out which it is.

    You may have to go to whoever is your Email provider by the Webmail method and consult their Help pages on the subject.

    Windows 10 Mail App is limited as a Mail client, for bulk Emails something like MS Outlook the desktop application would be more suited.
    I guess you could be correct, Helmut, regarding the 'security' issues over 'bulk' postings!
    Five appears to be the best/highest number at this time!

    I have just downloaded 'Mailbird' ~~~ from the reviews and other information obtained it would appear to be a good alternative and it is 'outside' the tentacles of MS!!!

    Thanks for your interest.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Installed 'Mailbird' but have the same issues!
    Can receive mails from each of three accounts but cannot send through any of them! (see message below)

    Delivery to the following recipients was aborted after 0 second(s):

    * d***b***@hotmail.co.uk (I have purposely amended this address for obvious reasons!).

    Reason: The following message to donaldbrookes@hotmail.co.uk was undeliverable.The reason for the problem: 550 5.5.0 Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable. [DB5EUR01FT064.eop-EUR01.prod.protection.outlook.com]

    I setup the e-accounts through W10 and assumed they would be correct ~~~ but can't find access to check if I have pop-3 or IMAP settings. My redundant PC was running XP with pop-3/smpt (correct?) settings. Don't even know if this would matter and I am waiting on a response from my ISP (yawn)...
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  7. Posts : 42,985
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #7

    Normally your ISP provides all the details necessary for your account.

    Try Google: example- my ISP is Talktalk.
    Search for
    Talktalk email client settings

    and see
    TalkTalk Mail Settings | TalkTalk IMAP and SMTP Settings - Email Settings Guide
    as an early result

    Example: Thunderbird:
    Mail not sending!-1.jpg

    After entering the email address, Thunderbird spent a minute trying to get appropriate configurations details automatically.

    Then note the choice of IMAP of POP3 it offers - that's your decision.
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  8. Posts : 26
    W10
    Thread Starter
       #8

    settings? - where?


    Thanks for your input ~~~ I am becoming more convinced this issue is in the 'smtp' area...

    Daft question, then...how to access these settings in W10?
    I could easily access them in XP but even a 'search' does not bring up anything to do with mail settings

    Fortunately my incoming posts are not affected.
    I have been with 'Tiscali' for many years and do not relish having to advise a huge number of people and organisations of a change to, say, 'TalkTalk'...

    Just point me to the hide-out for mail settings, please!

    Ken
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  9. Posts : 42,985
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #9

    Your smtp settings will be in Mailbird's account management options.

    I wasn't suggesting swapping to TalkTalk.net - as I said, that's an example. So for tiscali (with which I also have a couple of accounts!) substitute tiscali in your search.

    TISCALI.CO.UK email server settings - IMAP and SMTP - ServerSettings.Email

    Mailbird:
    How to Set Up the Mailbird E-mail Client Application
    POP3 settings Mailbird
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  10. Posts : 26
    W10
    Thread Starter
       #10

    misunderstanding...


    Sorry - maybe I did not explain sufficiently...

    Where/how do I access the actual settings in W10 for the mail client.
    XP seems so simple having moved 'up' to W10 - nothing is where I used to find it...

    - - - Updated - - -

    OK ~~~ I found the 'settings' for mail cunningly hidden in 'settings' and clicked on the mail icon then ferreted about to see what I was searching for...

    Unfortunately, the settings in the IMAP are exactly correct so I am now wondering - should I change to the 'pop' variant which I used in my XP machine without any challenges at all?

    I think I must be the person the "*** for Dummies" were written
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