Firefox..move tabs below address bar

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  1. Posts : 5
    Windows 10
       #21

    Bo! Success!

    Ultimately, my solution was to move the chrome folder into this default folder: AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\<random letters>.default-release\chrome. The other default folder did not work...

    Thanks a ton for the help
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  2. Posts : 915
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit 22H2 19045.3324
       #22

    OCGPA said:
    Bo! Success!
    default folder: AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\<random letters>.default-release\chrome. The other default folder did not work...
    Worth noting, if it's not already understood, Firefox will use whatever profile folder is listed as 'Default=' in the 'profiles.ini' that sits in the ''C:\Users\<UserName>\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\' root directory.

    Perhaps this is why changes to: ..\chrome\userChrome.css weren't being found.

    For Example this from my profiles.ini:
    Code:
    Default=Profiles/abcd1234.default
    Locked=1
    
    [Profile0]
    Name=default
    IsRelative=1
    Path=Profiles/abcd1234.default
    Default=1
    I know for me things got more confusing when, starting somewhere in v.67, Firefox insisted on creating this '<random letters>.default-release' directory for updates if I tried starting Firefox with an older version profile on a new version.
    Last edited by Farvatten; 24 Feb 2020 at 12:22. Reason: Correct the locaton of the profile.ini directory
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  3. Posts : 5
    Windows 10
       #23

    I added some borrowed code to my .css file. 1) to increase tab height a bit, and 2) to get rid of the extra white space that was showing up under the tabs: This is what I added:

    /* TABS: height */
    *|*:root {
    --tab-toolbar-navbar-overlap: 0px !important;
    --tab-min-height: 30px !important; /*adjust or omit to use density*/
    }

    #TabsToolbar {
    height: var(--tab-min-height) !important;
    margin-bottom: 1px !important;
    box-shadow: ThreeDShadow 0 -1px inset, -moz-dialog 0 1px !important;
    background-color: var(--toolbar-bgcolor) !important;
    }
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  4. Posts : 655
    Windows 10 Home
       #24

    OCGPA said:
    Bo! Success!

    Ultimately, my solution was to move the chrome folder into this default folder: AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\<random letters>.default-release\chrome. The other default folder did not work...

    Thanks a ton for the help
    You are welcome, I am very happy you are good now.

    Anak said:

    What lit up the bulb in my mind was when you said in post #19: AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\Default User\chrome and looking at your pix of the file explorer path in post #17 (thanks for posting that) I realized that the Chrome Folder with the new userChrome.css file needed to be placed within the Default User's profile.
    When one drills down to Profiles you'll see a large Folder with an alphanumerical name, mine is: 9hond0lk.default-1406683553722 and it will have in my case just default in the name, Bo yours has default user in yours I don't know why the difference. You open that folder and place the Chrome folder within it.
    Hi Anak. Default User is part of the name of the Firefox profile folder I am currently using because it is not the original profile. I created this profile. The actual name of my current profile is cq5fxoi3.Default User14112019. When you create a new profile, the profile manager comes up with the random numbers on the left side of the Default User label, and puts the label Default User in the name. You can delete the Default User label when you create a new profile, but I leave it alone. And put the date I created the profile on the right side. 14112019 is November 14 2019.

    Bo
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  5. Posts : 1,800
    10 Home 64-bit | v22H2 | Build - 19045.3930
       #25

    Thanks Bo for clearing that up.
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  6. Posts : 655
    Windows 10 Home
       #26

    Anak said:
    Thanks Bo for clearing that up.
    You are welcome, my friend.
    Anak said:
    Now I have another adjustment to make. After how many years? of getting used to, then working with tabs on top I have to get used to the way it was...
    That will be easy. To me personally, tabs on the bottom as well as the bookmarks sidebar are functions in the browser that are natural. This functions were originally designed to be this way for that reason, changing this functions in my opinion is like attempting to reinvent the wheel. I always stayed away from Chrome mainly because you cant have tabs on the bottom in Chrome.

    And now Mozilla is pushing to do away with them also. When Mozilla moved away from tabs on the bottom by default, for a while we could enable them in the UI of the browser, but now we have to use css customizations to get the function back. IMO, we shouldn't have to use css to have the browser function as we want it. And now, they making it difficult to keep using tabs on the bottom fluently even with the code as the css code breaks every few months. During the past year, css code has been broken at least 3 times by a Firefox update. And then you have to figure out how to fix whats broken. That takes time and its getting annoying. So, dont be surprised if and when in the near future, you dont see tabs on the bottom after an update.

    I disable automatic updates in Firefox so I rarely get caught by this type of surprises. And usually test new Firefox versions before doing an update and if there is a need for a fix, I find out what the fix is and test it before doing the actual update. In the future, I ll try keeping this thread updated with new code when is needed. The latter code I posted I started using it on January 8th, that day I updated to Firefox 72.0.1, I skipped the 72 update but probably the code was broken with the update to Firefox 72. Before that, the code was broken with the update to Firefox 71 in early December. So, Mozilla is breaking the code often, making i difficult. I think they want us all to use the browser one way and one way only. IMO, that's very boring.

    Bo
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  7. Posts : 17,838
    Windows 10
       #27

    I like tabs on top; I always just slam my cursor against the top bezel and middle click to open or close tabs; can't be bothered carefully homing in on that close button!

    I think Firefox and Cent are the only browsers that let you open a new tab by middle click on an empty tab bar!
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  8. Posts : 1,800
    10 Home 64-bit | v22H2 | Build - 19045.3930
       #28

    I couldn't agree more Bo, and I want you to know that I appreciate the work that you put into figuring out these customization's and yes, let's try to keep this thread going. Where did you learn how to do them? I got into the game pretty late so it wouldn't surprise me if mozilla put the clamps on to completely shut down custom style sheets.

    Here's something you and other members may find interesting; My previous attempts to place tabs on bottom was with my 'ol 7 to 10 box and when I used the machine I'm on now (system one in my specs) I'm like what, why are the tabs on top?

    Then I remembered that this was one that I didn't apply the new .css to so I went through the routine and put the new .css into the default profile and it wouldn't take so I brought out the FF profile manager and noticed I wasn't using the default profile but another one that I had created so I thought, let's try that one but when I went to move the chrome folder over to it, it told me that there was already a chrome folder in there. FF gave me options to replace or amend with a numerical suffix but I didn't want to do either as I already had a .css in there so I taped enter to make a new line an pasted the tabs on bottom .css there, saved it restarted FF and I had bottom tabs.

    Two items that surprised me, 1.) it worked even though the profile wasn't the default and 2.) That it was okay to amend the chrome folder, although I thought it would be I'm just happy it didn't cause problems.


    Oh Edwin, you're so impetuous.

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  9. Posts : 655
    Windows 10 Home
       #29

    Anak said:
    Two items that surprised me, 1.) it worked even though the profile wasn't the default and 2.) That it was okay to amend the chrome folder, although I thought it would be I'm just happy it didn't cause problems.
    Hi Anak. Regarding those items. Each profile uses its own css, or no css at all, profiles dont share anything regarding css. Also, about 6 months ago, Mozilla introduced this preference:

    toolkit.legacyUserProfileCustomizations.stylesheets

    In older profiles created before the preference was introduced, the preference was set to true automatically by the Firefox update, this was seamlessly done when the user was already using css customization. In newer profiles, the user has to set the preference to true for css to work. In other words, if you create a new profile in Firefox 73, you have to set the preference to true for css to work.

    Regarding making changes to the chrome folder. I run as Administrator and turn off UAC completely. Running this way, I have always being free to make any changes to the css file inside chrome folder without getting any kind of prompt, dialogue, etc.

    About the Firefox Profile manager. I use it all the time, Anak. I used it today, a little while ago, just playing around. I think it is a great tool. Whenever I run it, I run it sandboxed, so whatever I do with it don't touch my real Firefox installation.

    This here is for Sandboxie users . The Firefox Profile manager can be run sandboxed, like this. Create a shortcut with the path below (before creating the shortcut, make sure to change the box name to the one where you want the Profile manager to run, and put the correct path to your Firefox installation). It ll run exactly the same as if it was not running sandoxed.

    "C:\Program Files\Sandboxie\Start.exe" /box:Prueba2 "C:\Program Files (x86)\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe" -no-remote -P "NewProfile"

    Bo
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  10. Posts : 915
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit 22H2 19045.3324
       #30

    bo elam said:
    Also, about 6 months ago, Mozilla introduced this preference:

    toolkit.legacyUserProfileCustomizations.stylesheets

    ... In other words, if you create a new profile in Firefox 73, you have to set the preference to true for css to work.
    This is some seriously important information to be aware of about using userChrome.css in the future that would have otherwise been really really frustrating without.


    Thanks again for your thorough and exhaustive research!
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