Windows 10: Edge shows up in windows search but not Firefox Solved

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       3 Weeks Ago #51

    tonightwetaco said: View Post
    i removed the shortcut from its folder long ago. i don't like folders on my start menu.

    the cc shortcut is located in C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs

    curious!
    i decided to type out CCleaner fully and trace its location. its in C:\Program Files\CCleaner
    That could go some way to explaining it then. I have noticed before that when the indexing has found the .exe itself rather than a shortcut to it on Start you always have to type it out in full. An example of that is the Netplwiz control panel tool. That's indexed as being Windows\System32\netplwiz.exe and I always have to type it out in full. Search seems designed to prioritise results it finds from the Start Menu over those it finds elsewhere.

    Did you also rename the CC shortcut when you moved it out of the original folder? If so that may also have confused Search.

    I would now try moving the shortcut for CCleaner out of the All users Start menu (say, to your Desktop), make sure it's named just 'CCleaner' then copy or move it back to the All users Start menu. This may encourage Search to add it to the indexing correctly.

    You do not have permissions to create a new shortcut in the All users Start menu, only to copy or move one to there. I know that shortcuts I have manually added to Start in this way show up in Search after the first few letters are typed, so re-adding CCleaner to Start may get it to shows with just 'CC'.
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  2.    3 Weeks Ago #52

    Bree said: View Post
    That could go some way to explaining it then. I have noticed before that when the indexing has found the .exe itself rather than a shortcut to it on Start you always have to type it out in full. An example of that is the Netplwiz control panel tool. That's indexed as being Windows\System32\netplwiz.exe. Search seems designed to prioritise results it finds from the Start Menu over those it finds elsewhere.

    Did you also rename the CC shortcut when you moved it out of the original folder? If so that may also have confused Search.

    I would now try moving the shortcut for CCleaner out of the All users Start menu (say, to your Desktop), make sure it's named just 'CCleaner' then copy or move it back to the All users Start menu. This may encourage Search to add it to the indexing correctly.

    You do not have permissions to create a new shortcut in the All users Start menu, only to copy or move one to there. I know that shortcuts I have manually added to Start in this way show up in Search after the first few letters are typed, so re-adding CCleaner to Start may get it to shows with just 'CC'.
    hadn't renamed the shortcut.

    okay i moved it to my desktop then back to C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs

    still does not show in search when typing C
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    10 Home x64 (1709) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       3 Weeks Ago #53

    tonightwetaco said: View Post
    still does not show in search when typing C
    I have to type CC to find it, a single C isn't enough. Try removing the original shortcut again. Then make a new shortcut to CCleaner on your desktop, name it CCleaner and move that into the All users Start menu. You may also need to wait for indexing to catch up with the changes.
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       3 Weeks Ago #54

    You have to remember that the windows search is primarily an indexed search, it is set to return results in a preset order As @Bree has suggested once it finds them in the index - It may be worthwhile checking that the relevent file locations are still listed in the Index and then refreshing the actual index

    Shawn's batch file here is something that you may consider adding to your backup regime, as a post backup option

    Rebuild Search Index in Windows 10 Windows 10 Tutorials
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  5.    3 Weeks Ago #55

    did as you said Bree and also rebuilding index. will report back


    here is my index by the way
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       3 Weeks Ago #56

    tonightwetaco said: View Post
    ...here is my index by the way...
    I do not have Program Files or Program Files (x86) included in my indexing. I also note that I have Start Menu in mine whereas you do not. This could explain why your search just finds the .exe for CCleaner.
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  7.    3 Weeks Ago #57

    Bree said: View Post
    I do not have Program Files or Program Files (x86) included in my indexing. I also note that I have Start Menu in mine whereas you do not.
    used the bat file to fix it. still wont shw in search\

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  •    2 Weeks Ago #58

    any other ideas? Am i at the point where i should install Windows again?
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    10 Home x64 (1709) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       2 Weeks Ago #59

    No further ideas, except to say that if/when you reinstall Windows (and Firefox, and CCleaner, et. al.) I would recommend not 'tidying up' your Start menu this time. Leave it as it is for now and see if the search works as it should, learning to get Firefox and CCleaner after just the first one or two letters.

    Only then would I begin to change the Start menu (if you must) and then only one app at a time, checking that search still works after moving each of the shortcuts.
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  •    2 Weeks Ago #60

    Bree said: View Post
    No further ideas, except to say that if/when you reinstall Windows (and Firefox, and CCleaner, et. al.) I would recommend not 'tidying up' your Start menu this time. Leave it as it is for now and see if the search works as it should, learning to get Firefox and CCleaner after just the first one or two letters.

    Only then would I begin to change the Start menu (if you must) and then only one app at a time, checking that search still works after moving each of the shortcuts.
    what about reinstalling the apps and starting fresh that way?
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