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       10 Nov 2017 #11

    my opinion a TROLL trying to created confusion. the guy only has 27 post there.
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       10 Nov 2017 #12

    ICIT2LOL said: View Post
    Thanks for the replies but it was the fact that Office and Outlook is now accessed by annual payment now that got me thinking is ths real?? That is unless I have got that terribly wrong of course.
    office and outlook which is part of office are not "accessed by annual payments".
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       10 Nov 2017 #13

    Yep you may be right Whacker mate but I thought Office was by annual subs and the full Outlook app too - but I do stand to be corrected.
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  4.    10 Nov 2017 #14

    ICIT2LOL said: View Post
    I was playing around with another OS (Linux Mint) and Googled something to do with cloning with Macrium and saw this

    Linux MINT


    so if what is said about ALL users in the first paragraph going to be the case?? If so just what sort of charge is going to be levied??
    Bovine excrement.
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       10 Nov 2017 #15

    Office is available under two purchase models at present, the conventional pay a lot at once and run it on your local system is Offfice 2016, there is also the version that is purchased on a lower annual payment which will recur until you cancel the contract, this system also is downloaded and runs locally but comes with additional cloud based options - this is Office 365.

    The system to look at for the choice between subscription and full purchase options is that used by Adobe - for example I will use the photography package that I use - this costs $10 US per month so thats $120 US per year, or $360 US over the average three year life of a Photoshop version. So, if you are one of those who always run the latest Photoshop you are paying $360 US for photoshop against the last pre subscription model version Photoshop CS6 which retailed for excess of $800 US and you also get lightroom thrown in ,( $150 US every 2 years or so ). The other thing you get with the new model is continuous developments and upgrades - The new camera profiles used for lightroom and Camera Raw (for Photoshop) used to be released with the major new release of the products - they are now released as they are completed. Obviously there is a point where someone who keeps using the old software for long enough will break even and even start to save money.

    The thing that the old system generated in the real world were huge quantities of pirate copies of Photoshop, which drove up the price of the software to those who used it legitimately
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  6. ICIT2LOL's Avatar
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       10 Nov 2017 #16

    Well I stand to be corrected.
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       10 Nov 2017 #17

    Barman58 said: View Post
    The thing that the old system generated in the real world were huge quantities of pirate copies of Photoshop, which drove up the price of the software to those who used it legitimately
    EXTREME over pricing ALONE drive piracy. i forget about the office 365 model, cause it's way too intrusive for my taste. but yes there is a yearly version.
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       10 Nov 2017 #18

    xXWhackerXx said: View Post
    EXTREME over pricing ALONE drive piracy.
    Agreed.
    Also a significant proportion of the cost of products with DRM, is the cost of the developing/incorporating the DRM system.


    Music Piracy forced the Corporations to slash the cost of music.

    In Australia, before the "Piracy Era" a CD of 10 tracks cost ~$30, now the equivalent cost of a CD of 10 tracks cost is ~$10.
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  9.    10 Nov 2017 #19

    xXWhackerXx said: View Post
    my opinion a TROLL trying to created confusion. the guy only has 27 post there.
    Maybe but his website is real

    Christopher Tocci, Ph.D.
    ALFA Engineering Design
    ALFA Engineering Design's Homepage


    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/artif...istopher-tocci
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       10 Nov 2017 #20

    ICIT2LOL said: View Post
    I was playing around with another OS (Linux Mint) and Googled something to do with cloning with Macrium and saw this

    Linux MINT


    so if what is said about ALL users in the first paragraph going to be the case?? If so just what sort of charge is going to be levied??
    Even here on Ten Forums we have our share of members who repeatedly post completely false information as facts without any reference to sources. I detest this "it does not have to be true to be posted as a fact" mentality, people thinking they are so important that if they believe something it must be a fact.

    The post on Macrium forums you linked to is a typical example of this. I can almost see how the thought process of that OP goes: "I think it's like this, therefore it must be a fact. Who cares about evidence, my word must be enough to convince others that I know what I am talking about".

    Total carbage, b***s***.


    ICIT2LOL said: View Post
    Thanks for the replies but it was the fact that Office and Outlook is now accessed by annual payment now that got me thinking is ths real?? That is unless I have got that terribly wrong of course.
    Your statement is not completely true. It is not a fact that Office and Outlook are now accessed by annual payment. Your comment indicates that it is the only option.

    It's a choice users can make, buy a one time life long license for specific version of Office without upgrade option (Office 2016 at the moment), or buy a monthly or annual subscription which includes all future upgrades to always have latest version (Office 365).

    Whats the difference between Office 365 and Office 2016?

    Kari
    Last edited by Kari; 10 Nov 2017 at 21:12.
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