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  1.    08 Sep 2017 #11
    Join Date : Jun 2017
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    Windows 10
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    Thanks for the clarification and advice guys
    And yes I am using Macrium

    I will create image backup of my SSD, including all partitons
    And manually backup data from my internal HD to an external

    Out of curiosity, I bought a separate 2TB external HD specifically for my image backups using Macrium.
    I also have another separate external HD which I had been using past year for University work, and recently manually backing up documents, photos etc.

    People say to have more than 1 external HD to backup photos, documents etc. Can I use my '2TB HD image backup ' to also backup data? Or just use it for the SSD image?
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  2.    08 Sep 2017 #12
    Join Date : Aug 2014
    Posts : 169
    Windows 10 Home, 64-bit

    Quote Originally Posted by C0zzie View Post
    People say to have more than 1 external HD to backup photos, documents etc. Can I use my '2TB HD image backup ' to also backup data? Or just use it for the SSD image?
    You can use the 2 TB HD for any purpose you want.

    The Macrium image of your SSD will just be another file on it, like a picture of grandma.

    That file can co-exist on the same drive with any other files of your choice. I'd just put it in readily identifiable folder so you can easily find it if needed.

    A 2 TB drive that is used ONLY for Macrium images might be a waste of space. If you have 300 GB occupied on C, the image file will be near 150 GB. That 2 TB drive would hold maybe 13 image files of that size. Do you need to keep that many? I keep only the most recent 2 or 3, which are about 18 GB each in my case.

    You ought to make a backup of that Macrium file, just like you would any other important file. An ordinary copy of it.

    Multiple backups is always a good idea. Some use the cloud. Some use internal and external drives. Some use USB flash drives for at least some of their data. Some rotate the backups with one drive always kept in a safe deposit box off site.

    It all depends on your anxiety level and how big a deal it would be to lose your data.

    I'd guess worldwide that most people have no backup whatsoever.
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  3.    08 Sep 2017 #13
    Join Date : Jun 2017
    Posts : 54
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter

    ah so I can use my image backup external 2TB hd, and also add documents to it.
    I was somehow worried that when you boot the bootable CD, insert the external HD, and find the restore image I want, the documents also on the external HD will be a nuisance or get erased.

    Ok thanks again
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  4.    08 Sep 2017 #14
    Join Date : Aug 2014
    Posts : 169
    Windows 10 Home, 64-bit

    Quote Originally Posted by C0zzie View Post
    ah so I can use my image backup external 2TB hd, and also add documents to it.
    I was somehow worried that when you boot the bootable CD, insert the external HD, and find the restore image I want, the documents also on the external HD will be a nuisance or get erased.

    Ok thanks again
    No. You'd just open Macrium, navigate to the image file on the external, and tell Macrium to restore that file to the destination of your choice.

    Do yourself a favor: pretend your SSD fails one minute from now and do what you have to do to convince yourself that you know what to do by walking partway through the procedure. You need to understand the menu choices and need to confirm your "boot disk" will boot.
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  5.    08 Sep 2017 #15
    Join Date : Jun 2017
    Posts : 54
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter

    I thought if PC fails, e.g it wont boot up, you load the Rescue CD, insert the external HD with the images, select correct image and restore.
    Or is the "open Macrium, navigate to the image file on the external, and tell Macrium to restore that file to the destination of your choice" a procedure for if your PC still loads normally, but something isnt right and you want to restore an old image?

    Yes I confirmed that my bootable CD works when I just installed the SSD 3 weeks ago. That is the only thing I have 'tested'.
    But I will definitely look into the Macrium manual more.
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  6.    08 Sep 2017 #16
    Join Date : Jun 2016
    UK
    Posts : 282
    Windows 10 Home 64 bit (with Creators OS)

    Quote Originally Posted by C0zzie View Post
    ah dang! I just realised something obvious from reading @ignatzatsonis's last paragraph.
    My SSD contains my OS (Windows 10), general softwares (HD tune, Spotify, CCleaner), editing softwares (such as Maya, Photoshop, Unity etc) and 1 Game (might add more to it)
    My 2TB internal HD is only a storage drive which contains; -Documents -Downloads -Music -Pictures -Videos
    I also have all of this backed up manually (copy and paste) onto an external HD (that I used for University)

    So...I actually don't need to create an image of my HD if its just a storage right...?
    I only need to create an image of my SSD, whether its before an Windows Update (that rolls out every Tuesday I think), or if I make big changes, like software edits etc.
    I used to think that but I haven't seen any Windows update for weeks (attachment). Thanks for the tip-off about next Tuesday. I will make a manual Macrium image of my SSD (C drive) before bedtime on Monday.

    Attachment 152473

    BTW, I backup my internal HD (Documents, Pictures etc.) regularly using FreeFileSync. It backsup only the changes that have occurred since the last BU, so is very quick despite holding 650 GB in total.

    "just a storage"! Mine holds decades of images, and is backed up a second time on another drive.
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  7.    08 Sep 2017 #17
    Join Date : Aug 2014
    Posts : 169
    Windows 10 Home, 64-bit

    Quote Originally Posted by C0zzie View Post
    I thought if PC fails, e.g it wont boot up, you load the Rescue CD, insert the external HD with the images, select correct image and restore.
    Or is the "open Macrium, navigate to the image file on the external, and tell Macrium to restore that file to the destination of your choice" a procedure for if your PC still loads normally, but something isnt right and you want to restore an old image?

    If your PC can still boot from the hard drive, boot and open Macrium from that hard drive, and then restore.

    If your PC will NOT boot from the hard drive, boot from the rescue media. You will be presented with the same Macrium interface. Restore from that interface.

    The choices made in Macrium are the same in either case. It's up to you to know what those choices are and to choose correctly. I'd think it's better to know that now rather than later when you are in a jam.
    Last edited by ignatzatsonic; 08 Sep 2017 at 19:16.
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  8.    08 Sep 2017 #18
    Join Date : Jan 2015
    Posts : 673

    Just my preference: I make a full of my Data partition now and then. Just recently, I added the learning of how to make restorable incremental backups via Macrium Reflect 7 and Image for Windows 3.
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  9.    09 Sep 2017 #19
    Join Date : Jul 2014
    Serbia
    Posts : 10,465
    W10 Insider + Linux

    According to me, backing up data is more important than backing up OS installation. OS (specially W10) and programs you can replace easy enough but precious data may be lost FOREVER !!!
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  10.    09 Sep 2017 #20
    Join Date : Jun 2015
    Sunnyvale, CA
    Posts : 123
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit

    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    According to me, backing up data is more important than backing up OS installation. OS (specially W10) and programs you can replace easy enough but precious data may be lost FOREVER !!!
    That depends on your OS changes and installed programs.

    I have re-located the user folders, set up links of swapfiles and internet caches to other locations. There are countless small tweaks and customizations and many, many scripts. 630 installed programs and 900+ VSTs (audio devices), most seldom used.

    When I upgraded from XP to Win 7 it took me a month. I have since only done in-place upgrades of the OS - never re-installed.

    I don't have any SSDs, so I have distributed things across several fast drives to help overcome rotational latencies. In the future, I might not do that if I just had a big SSD for everything and my personal stuff was in one spot.

    But that would be one (or two) very large drive(s).
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