Windows 10: windows could not find a backup for this computer Solved

  1.    27 Jul 2017 #1

    windows could not find a backup for this computer

    did a backup several days ago using restore backup when ancient laptop was running as if new. An old problem returned so I wanted to see if a restore would fix it. restore gave the message, "windows could not find a backup for this computer"
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  2. Caledon Ken's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Pro x64 Build 1803
       28 Jul 2017 #2

    Hi jalea148.

    Windows can and does have issue occasional find Images it created. I don't have a good answer but lets just clarify....

    Just so I'm clear when you did the backup this is the process where you used Windows tools to create an "Image", correct?

    Did you created the Image on an external drive or an alternate drive in system?

    Could you tell us how you create Image?

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  3.    28 Jul 2017 #3

    Restore was typed into search; the top 2 of all the matches were 'create a restore point' and 'backup and restore'. I used create a restore point with 'backup and restore'. I accepted a suggested location on the C-drive. I just noticed 'backup and restore' now say 'backup and restore on Windows 7'. That may be the problem.
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  4. Caledon Ken's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Pro x64 Build 1803
       28 Jul 2017 #4

    Okay. Two different things, at least I treat them that way.

    Restore points are copies of the registry files and necessary files as I understand it. These are used by a function called "System Restore" to take you back to a point in time when you created the restore point. I've seen in Windows 10 where "Restore Points" are not enabled and the user, you, have to enable. You also determine how much space you want to use so you can keep multiple "Restore Points". So technically they are a backup but not how I think of Backup.

    Backup and Restore Windows 7 is the real "Backup" app. It allows you to create an Image of your system and or just data files. The Image includes all files from Windows, Programs and Data. It is stored in what I will call a container, a big blob of a file. It also allows you to copy out data files and these appear in File explorer as traditional files.

    The Backup and Restore Win 7 also creates a boot disk to allow you to boot the system and then restore the Image file you previously created. You also see this in the Advance Startup menu as System Image Recovery.

    So if you are using Restore Points, Windows Key + R, type in sysdm.cpl, enter. Click on System Protection tab.

    You want to see, in the lower box, that system protection is "On" for the C: drive. Under configure you can determine amount of space to use. If enable for C: you should see above it "System Restore". Again this is just the registry and files it copies. If you click System Restore it walks you through. If it can't find restore points that is unusual or System Protection is not enable. If Restore Points are enable and you just went through a major upgrade, v1607 to V1703, your old restore points are not available.

    If you want to use a very good tool for Images please check out Macrium Reflect. Free, very reliable and recommended by members. We have a tutorial in our library. I would recommend it over the built in tool. The built in tool can be used for data files effectively. I also always recommend that if you are doing data backups or Images that they be done to media that can be removed, made offline. Its okay to keep an Image online but my thinking is you don't want all your eggs in one basket.

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  5.    28 Jul 2017 #5

    Ken, I ran sysdm.cpl and enabled protection. When in system restore it shows the current date. After clicking on more it showed the missing restore point and others relating to updates. Can I backup to any of these? If so, how? Thank you.
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  6. Caledon Ken's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Pro x64 Build 1803
       29 Jul 2017 #6

    Cool. You click (or double click) on one and follow the prompts. System restore doesn't always work but it is pretty reliable. It issues a warning, you decide and accept.

    The further you go back in the time machine the more "System" changes you lose. Say yesterday you installed chrome. Going back two days and Chrome won't appear. Same for Updates, they will have to be redone. The nice thing is data files, your personally created stuff is unchanged, so the letter you wrote yesterday in Open Office remains.

    Again some members on the forum use Macrium Reflect to achieve this although they keep there data on separate partitions or backed up. When you restore an Image to a partition it "restores" the partition to the way it was, not only the system. It is very reliable.

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  7.    29 Jul 2017 #7

    At your recommendation, Macrium Reflect was installed and run. No problem. Thanks.
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  8. Stevekir's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Home 64 bit (with Creators OS)
       29 Jul 2017 #8

    jalea148 said: View Post
    At your recommendation, Macrium Reflect was installed and run. No problem. Thanks.
    I have used Macrium Reflect Free for over a year now and it quietly makes an image of my C drive every day, retaining the previous two images. I have twice tested it by doing a restore from a recent image and it worked perfectly. It is highly regarded.
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