More Restore Points please


  1. Posts : 340
    Windows 10 Home 64 bit (with Creators OS)
       #1

    More Restore Points please


    A couple of months ago I increased the amount of memory available for Restore Points but now see that Current Usage is 222 MB and the Max Usage is at the default of 1% (18 GB) which seems ample for more Points to be stored. In System Properties > System Protection , Protection is On for my C drive (an SSD) and my internal spinning HD. Despite that, if I list my R Points and click on "Show more restore points" I see this:
    More Restore Points please-capture-bngntn.jpg There is another one for 08/04/2017 off the top of the window.

    Sometimes I get more. Perhaps the list starts again at the beginning of the month. I would like some R Points to be stored for the previous month as well as the current (just in case I need them). In Windows 7 I could have many more R Points stored.

    How can I get more Restore Points to be stored please?

    Thanks.
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  2. Posts : 35,491
    Win 10 Pro (21H2) (2nd PC is 21H2)
       #2

    Hi, I'm very surprised you are only using 222Mb.
    How did you determine that?
    vssadmin list shadowstorage
    should show your usage.

    If you want a reliable means of restoring your system to a point a significant time back, even if it is unbootable or your drive fails, try disk imaging (e.g. Macrium Reflect (free) + its boot medium + external storage for images).

    Recently a number of people have experienced difficulty with system restore (one thread on 0x80070091 is over 24 pages long).
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  3. Posts : 13,685
    Windows10
       #3

    dalchina said:
    Hi, I'm very surprised you are only using 222Mb.
    How did you determine that?
    vssadmin list shadowstorage
    should show your usage.

    If you want a reliable means of restoring your system to a point a significant time back, even if it is unbootable or your drive fails, try disk imaging (e.g. Macrium Reflect (free) + its boot medium + external storage for images).

    Recently a number of people have experienced difficulty with system restore (one thread on 0x80070091 is over 24 pages long).
    If you create a full image backup say upon installation, then you can do a differential backup whenever you feel it id needed - usually just before installing new stuff, then this minimises amount of disk storage needed. You can schedule the differential backups if you prefer. I cannot remember but there may be a limit on number of diffs in free version, meaning you have to do a new full image periodically.
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  4. Posts : 340
    Windows 10 Home 64 bit (with Creators OS)
    Thread Starter
       #4

    Here is my record of usage:
    More Restore Points please-capture-usage.jpg

    Whenever I type vsadmin or vsadmin list shadowstorage into the taskbar query field a window opens but immediately closes. (I have W10 Home. Perhaps it is designed not to allow vsadmin tampering).

    Yes I use Macrium Reflect, free version. It does a full backup every day and keeps four. I tested it by restoring my system using it and it worked perfectly. I only want to have W10 Restore points available as a backup.

    EDIT: By the way, my C drive is on an SSD along with all my programs. All my personal folders are on another internal HD. Perhaps that is the reason for the low Usage figure, although I don't see much logic in that.
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  5. Posts : 13,685
    Windows10
       #5

    Stevekir said:
    Here is my record of usage:
    More Restore Points please-capture-usage.jpg

    Whenever I type vsadmin or vsadmin list shadowstorage into the taskbar query field a window opens but immediately closes. (I have W10 Home. Perhaps it is designed not to allow vsadmin tampering).

    Yes I use Macrium Reflect, free version. It does a full backup every day and keeps four. I tested it by restoring my system using it and it worked perfectly. I only want to have W10 Restore points available as a backup.

    EDIT: By the way, my C drive is on an SSD along with all my programs. All my personal folders are on another internal HD. Perhaps that is the reason for the low Usage figure, although I don't see much logic in that.
    Doing a full Macrium backup every day is decidely wasteful on storage when you can use differential backups and only do a full backup say weekly or monthly.
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  6. Posts : 35,491
    Win 10 Pro (21H2) (2nd PC is 21H2)
       #6

    More Restore Points please-snap-2017-04-09-11.51.14.jpg
    More Restore Points please-snap-2017-04-09-11.51.41.jpg

    Run vssadmin list shadowstorage from an admin command prompt:
    More Restore Points please-snap-2017-04-09-11.54.20.jpg

    EDIT: By the way, my C drive is on an SSD along with all my programs. All my personal folders are on another internal HD. Perhaps that is the reason for the low Usage figure, although I don't see much logic in that.
    System restore does not protect your personal files at all.

    I do agree with your strategy of keeping personal files away from the OS partition/disk.
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  7. Posts : 340
    Windows 10 Home 64 bit (with Creators OS)
    Thread Starter
       #7

    cereberus said:
    Doing a full Macrium backup every day is decidely wasteful on storage when you can use differential backups and only do a full backup say weekly or monthly.
    Here is what Macrium states are my Retention Rules:
    More Restore Points please-capture-macrium.jpg

    Macrium's backups are on an external 1 TB HD dedicated to Macrium. The Windows10 Properties shows the backups take up 142 Gb of space (which answers the query about the low reporting of only 222 MB which referred to Windows Backup and Restore rather then Macrium).

    I have lots of space to spare on the Macrium HD. I set up Macrium to do one full backup, retaining four, and one Differential, each day,. Presumably the Differentials update the daily full BU during the day, which seems useful. I then manually copy a Full Backup once a month or so to another HD just in case a bug has appeared weeks ago.

    So is there much advantage in changing my Macrium rules?
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  8. Posts : 2,617
    trying to install win10
       #8

    Whenever I type vsadmin
    Try vssadmin.
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  9. Posts : 340
    Windows 10 Home 64 bit (with Creators OS)
    Thread Starter
       #9

    Dalchina:

    System restore does not protect your personal files at all.

    I do agree with your strategy of keeping personal files away from the OS partition/disk.

    Many thanks. I am treating your first sentence as the authoritative one I have been seeking for a long time!
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  10. Posts : 2,617
    trying to install win10
       #10

    The system restore program may not, it only uses part of shadow copy storage.

    Check what is in your shadow copies.

    Download freeware version zvsscSetup.exe

    z-dbackup
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