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  1.    01 Mar 2017 #1
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    Image Windows 10 laptops with DISM (or other free tool)


    Hi All

    I'm about to rollout about 100 Lenovo Carbon X1 laptops with Windows 10 Pro on them and I wanted to find out how I can create an image of a fully patched Windows 10 install. From what I have read ImageX is no longer so I assume I have to use DISM.

    Can DISM be used to do this? What I would like to do is install all the latest Windows 10 updates for build 1607 and install the apps (Office, Adobe Reader, Java etc) and then capture the image to a bootable USB3 external hard drive that I can use to image all the laptops.

    Can this be done and if it can, what are the steps to follow? I'm open to using free tools that don't require a license and can be used in a company. Windows activation is one thing I have also been wondering about so need to keep the machine activated after imaging it. All the laptops are identical.

    If I've left anything out please ask
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  3.    01 Mar 2017 #3
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    Thanks for that!

    I was just thinking, can I use the "Back up and Restore" in Windows 10 to create a System Image to an external HDD that I can use to deploy to the other laptops?
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  4.    01 Mar 2017 #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by xy677 View Post
    Thanks for that!

    I was just thinking, can I use the "Back up and Restore" in Windows 10 to create a System Image to an external HDD that I can use to deploy to the other laptops?
    It would be MUCH slower. Several times longer in my experience (comparing Windows system Image to Macrium)

    You would be better off saving and restoring the image using almost any other method depending what you have or can get a license for.
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  5.    01 Mar 2017 #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by xy677 View Post
    Thanks for that!

    I was just thinking, can I use the "Back up and Restore" in Windows 10 to create a System Image to an external HDD that I can use to deploy to the other laptops?
    The tutorial Kyhi mentioned is using Macrium Reflect to capture and deploy the image. Two weeks ago I explained why Macrium in another reply in that tutorial thread, here's an extract of that post:

    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    When install image has been prepared and sysprepped, capture the image and deploy it. In this tutorial I use somewhat unorthodox deployment method, capturing the image as a Macrium system image then deploying it by using Macrium image restore function. Reason this tutorial tells about the Macrium method is that I tried to keep this somewhat complicated process as simple as possible to suit needs of private users.

    For more professional approach, to capture and deploy the image on corporate / organisational networks you can and should of course use more professional tools and methods, like for instance capturing image with DISM and deploying with Microsoft Deployment Toolkit.
    Last week another member posted quite similar question as yours in which Macrium as deployment method was further discussed:

    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    First something important: forget Macrium! That being said I can almost feel it how some senior geeks are now thinking "What on Earth is he talking about? Forget Macrium?"

    Let me explain: I am a huge Macrium fan and wholeheartedly recommend their products, using them myself (Reflect, viBoot, CMC). In the tutorial you are referring to I explain how to use Macrium Reflect to capture and deploy Windows image. However, you have to remember the tutorial is written to private users with one or at most a few machines to deploy an image using Macrium Reflect Free. Using the free and even commercial Home edition on corporate network is not allowed.

    Cost of Macrium Reflect Technician license is at the moment 413 but using this license deployment would be quite slow as the license can be used (according to EULA) on unlimited workstations but on one machine at a time.

    To speed deployment up using Macrium you would need Workstation licenses which cost at the moment 548 for 10 workstations, 2,430 for 50 workstations or 4,556 for 100.
    Read the whole thread, it's relatively short and might give you some ideas: Customised Windows 10 deployment on multiple desktops and laptops.

    Kari
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  6.    02 Mar 2017 #6
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    Thanks for the terrific replies. I watched all the Youtube videos posted by Kari and they are fantastic!

    Just wanted to check that I am doing this correctly. I am doing this in a test VM but the steps should be the same for a physical machine:


    1. Installed Win10 Pro and when I got to the customise screen I hit Ctrl+Shift F3 to enter audit mode after it rebooted
    2. I then installed all my WinUpdates (and rebooted) as well as my apps
    3. Installed the Windows System Manager and saved the unattend.xml file to the Sysprep folder
    4. I then ran sysprep /generalize /oobe and the VM shutdown
    5. SInce I am using DISM only (and not any 3rd party tool) I captured the image as follows

    Dism /capture-image /imagefile:d:\install.wim /capturedir:d:\ /name:C-Drive

    6. I then created a new VM and booted from the media and applied the image with:
    Dism /apply-image /imagefile:d:\install.wim /index:1 /ApplyDir:c:\
    bcdboot c:\windows /l en-EN

    This seemed to work fine and after the VM rebooted I could see my customisation.

    The questions I have are:

    1) Will this captured/applied image keep the Windows Activation across all the laptops that have the same hardware?

    2) Will a new unique SID be created for each machine that has the image applied? (these laptops will be joined to the domain)

    Thanks again for all the feedback!
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  7.    02 Mar 2017 #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by xy677 View Post
    Thanks for the terrific replies. I watched all the Youtube videos posted by Kari and they are fantastic!
    Thanks


    Quote Originally Posted by xy677 View Post
    1) Will this captured/applied image keep the Windows Activation across all the laptops that have the same hardware?
    Windows image made and deployed as per these instructions is not activated and will not be activated when deployed if the machine in question has no digital license for that specific edition.

    Licensing is always per machine image will be deployed to. For private users, if the machine has had the same Windows edition previously activated, the new installation / deployment will also be activated. Users should in these case select I don't have a product key option when key is asked in OOBE, digital license based on machine's hardware signature will be automatically applied when installation / deployment is done.

    In corporation / organisation environment other activation methods like volume activation can and may be used.


    Quote Originally Posted by xy677 View Post
    2) Will a new unique SID be created for each machine that has the image applied? (these laptops will be joined to the domain)
    Yes. Each machine the image will be deployed to gets a unique SID (GUID). It will be generated when machine / Windows setup enters OOBE phase.

    Kari
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  8.    02 Mar 2017 #8
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    So is it possible for me to use DISM and keep the Windows Activation? These laptops come preactivated and don't have any product keys on them anywhere so what are my options here? We won't/can't use KMS to activate these machines so I need to keep/use the existing Activation that comes with the laptop out the box. Is this possible?

    Also, is it possible to be prompted to enter a machine name after the machine is imaged using DISM?
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  9.    02 Mar 2017 #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by xy677 View Post
    So is it possible for me to use DISM and keep the Windows Activation? These laptops come preactivated and don't have any product keys on them anywhere so what are my options here?
    I am not sure what you mean with "preactivation"?

    Using pre-installed Windows 10, the digital license will be granted first when OOBE has been done and initial user boots to desktop and Windows can contact activation servers. If the digital license exists, Windows 10 will be automatically activated regardless of installation and deployment method as long as installed / deployed edition is the same than existing digital license.


    Quote Originally Posted by xy677 View Post
    Also, is it possible to be prompted to enter a machine name after the machine is imaged using DISM?
    OOBE will generate computer name, it needs to be manually changed when installed / deployed.

    Kari
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  10.    02 Mar 2017 #10
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    By preactivate I mean, when I unbox the new laptop, it has Windows 10 already activated (OEM install). That's what I am asking, how can I keep this activation for all laptops once they get imaged using DISM?
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