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  1.    05 Feb 2017 #1
    Join Date : Jun 2015
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    Win7 Pro 64-bit\Windows 10 Pro 64-bit dual boot

    Unable to Clone Windows 10 HDD


    This thread is a continuation of another thread in BSOD.

    This is getting stranger and stranger.
    I took the SSD out of my primary PC and put it in my secondary Windows7 PC and cloned the OS.
    I then booted from the SSD without any problems.

    Then I put the SSD back into my primary PC and booted it using my Windows 7 HDD and did a surface test on the SSD using MiniTool. No errors.

    Then I cloned my Windows 10 HDD using the same MiniTool utility. No errors during the clone.
    Added an entry in my EasyBCD for the new SSD and attempted to boot from it.
    As soon as the login screen appeared it started flashing quickly. I let it do that for about 30 seconds and had to press the reset button to stop it.
    Apparently during those few seconds it marked all my internal HDDs as "dirty". Why?


    This morning I tried to clone my Windows 7 HDD and it worked perfectly.
    I was able to boot from the SSD successfully.

    Then I tried the same thing with my Windows 10 HDD.
    In both cases I was using Acronis and in both cases I ran it from the booted system so it rebooted into the clone software.

    No errors in both cases but after completing the Windows 10 clone and rebooting, again the Login Screen would do nothing but flash over and over again AND marking all my internal HDDs as "dirty".
    I have no idea what is going on here.
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  2.    05 Feb 2017 #2
    Join Date : Jul 2016
    Crewe Cheshire
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    windows 10

    When a PC boots it sets the drive as dirty on shut down it clears the dirty bit if it crash's it doesn't clear it which should trigger disk check on start if you clone with it set it will give problems try deleting all partitions before you clone leaving disk blank
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  3.    05 Feb 2017 #3
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    Win7 Pro 64-bit\Windows 10 Pro 64-bit dual boot
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuria View Post
    When a PC boots it sets the drive as dirty on shut down it clears the dirty bit if it crash's it doesn't clear it which should trigger disk check on start if you clone with it set it will give problems try deleting all partitions before you clone leaving disk blank
    I'm sorry, but you didn't read my post correctly.
    My drives are all "clean" when I clone...I make sure of that before each attempt.
    It also doesn't answer my most pressing question, which is why does it only happen when cloning my Windows 10 HDD?
    I thank you for your input though.
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  4.    05 Feb 2017 #4
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    windows 10

    Check and see if the dirty bit is set Fsutil: dirty I wonder if this does it Added an entry in my EasyBCD for the new SSD and attempted to boot from it.
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  5.    05 Feb 2017 #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuria View Post
    Check and see if the dirty bit is set Fsutil: dirty I wonder if this does it Added an entry in my EasyBCD for the new SSD and attempted to boot from it.
    Hello.
    Would you please use "periods" in your sentences.
    I cannot understand what you are trying to tell me because it is one long sentence.

    By the way...I use CHKNTFS to check the dirty bit.
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  6.    05 Feb 2017 #6
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    Windows 10 Pro

    Have you tried setting Windows 10 to boot into safe mode on the HDD. While it is still booting into safe mode, clone it. Then it should boot into safe mode on the SSD. Then you can clear safe mode booting and see what happens.
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  7.    05 Feb 2017 #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    Have you tried setting Windows 10 to boot into safe mode on the HDD. While it is still booting into safe mode, clone it. Then it should boot into safe mode on the SSD. Then you can clear safe mode booting and see what happens.
    Thanks for the tip...but...why does it work when I clone my Windows 7 HDD and not my Windows 10 HDD?
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  8.    05 Feb 2017 #8
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    the differnce is Added an entry in my EasyBCD for the new SSD and attempted to boot from it.
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  9.    05 Feb 2017 #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    Have you tried setting Windows 10 to boot into safe mode on the HDD. While it is still booting into safe mode, clone it. Then it should boot into safe mode on the SSD. Then you can clear safe mode booting and see what happens.
    Your comments gave me an idea.
    I booted into Safe Mode on both Windows 10 disks - HDD and SSD.

    The HDD safe mode acted normal.
    The SSD Safe Mode gave me the Login Screen - on a blue background...not the "Mountain Lake" background I have as my default.
    Plus...once booted into the Desktop, the Start Button did nothing when I clicked it. The Search box was useless and wouldn't accept anything and every minute or so my default Browser (Firefox) came up and went to the Windows 10 Help site.
    Windows Explorer would work.
    So it looks like the Windows 10 installation got borked on the way to the SSD. Now the question is...why?
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  10.    05 Feb 2017 #10
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    Your not clear I took the SSD out of my primary PC and put it in my secondary Windows7 PC and cloned the OS.
    I then booted from the SSD without any problems.

    So you booted the ssd on another pc which would change drivers activation etc?
    Then I cloned my Windows 10 HDD using the same MiniTool utility. No errors during the clone
    so you have two disk with the same signature ?
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