How to backup windows 10 laptop?

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  1. Posts : 601
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #41

    Hey all. I am going to do this soon and want to confirm a few things after reading everything again.



    I want to do the image backup so that if i save it to external hard drive, then i have the exact copy image of it. I know people say they do this in case something happens to their laptop. Or if they restore it on a new laptop.



    I got dell xps 15 9550 bought years ago. It came with a 2.5 inch 250gb ssd and also a 32gb m.2 ssd. Its like a 2nd h
    ard drive that is in this laptop. In this dell xps 15 9550 model, you had option of having this... or just havin one hard drive slot that is a m.2 ssd and also a bigger laptop battery. Back then i did not know this when i bought my laptop.



    Because of this, i want to


    1. Replace my smaller dell 56whr battery with a bigger 84whr or 97whr battery


    2. In order to put the bigger battery in my laptop, the 2.5 inch ssd has to be removed from my laptop to make room for the bigger battery. I also would remove the 32gb m.2 ssd since well that is going to be useless since its too small.

    I would be buying a bigger m.2 ssd that is either 500gb or 1tb to replace the 32gb m.2 ssd that is currently in that slot.


    3. I also will upgrade my ram from 8gb to 16gb. I want to do all these upgrades.



    I was told that if i do the backup windows copy image with macrium, put it in external hard drive and download something into a usb... that would mean when i have the parts removed from my laptop and new parts put in... then when i power my laptop on... i could boot it from the usb stick/external hard drive which has the image... then once i do this... my laptop with the new m.2 ssd will boot up and look exactly like how it does now... correct? As of now, i only have about 30gb free of 232gb on my laptop so im running out of space.


    So this would mean when i start my laptop, i would have like 760gb free out of 960gb or so if i get a 1tb m.2 ssd?


    The other question I have is this. I have windows 10 pro. I do have bitlocker installed. I also have a windows 10 password as well but i heard that is relatively useless. Does bitlocker need to be turned off and the windows 10 password need to be turned off when i do the backup imaging? Would this be an issue when backing it up?


    I don't mind turning off bitlocker temporarily to do this. But when i have the full image copied to the usb or external hard drive...does it have to be unencrypted? Such as bitlocker has to be turned off?


    I like bitlocker because you put a pin and it protects your laptop if anyone has access to it.
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  2. Posts : 33
    Win 10 Home
       #42

    Iím replying only in case those who know lots more than I do donít see this and reply themselves.

    It would help if you clarify how these two drives are used Ė i.e. where are the various boot partitions? Where is the system drive (C:\)? Where do you keep application software? Where is all your data?

    Windows default action is to keep everything on C:\, because everyone (nearly) has a C: drive, and very few have a 2nd HDD. I suspect your present system may use the 32GB SSD only for paging, virtual memory management and temporary files. If so, it should still run in a single drive, with the 32GB SSD totally removed from the system.

    You want to reconfigure the hardware because youíre running out of space, so letís ignore Bitlocker until the dust has settled. I'll also ignore the battery until afterwards. You donít need a bigger battery to make the system run; it just gives you longer between battery re-charges.

    So Step 1 is to move from a 2 drive system (1 x 32GB + 1 x 250GB) to a single drive system (1 x 500GB).
    Step 2 will be the battery
    Step 3 BitLocker.

    Before you start, I recommend you

    • Create new Reflect Rescue media on CD or USB
    • Switch off Bitlocker;
    • Install MiniTool Partition Wizard (free)
    • Take a full system image backup (Image 1 - insurance policy)
    • Browse this image (Reflect in Restore mode) to understand the purpose & contents of every partition on each of the 2 drives. This should tell you what you need to change so it can become a single drive setup Ė which is what our new setup on the 500GB SSD will be.
    • Move any personal data you want to keep from 32GB to 250GB and test it reboots OK.
    • Take a full backup at this point. (Image 2)

    The aim is that the registry should not need the 32GB drive to be present in the system to boot & run.

    As I say, I canít think what the 32GB SSD may be doing other than memory management. If you have no personal data on that drive, I would check if there are boot partitions on it, and if not, I would try a reboot with the 32GB removed. If Windows boots and runs as a single drive, as it might well do, you can just use the MiniTool Partition Wizard Migrate OS function onto the new 500GB M2. Otherwise...

    ...When youíre happy the 32GB SSD contains only system partitions & system data, I recommend you do the following

    1. With only the new 500GB M2 drive installed, re-install Windows from scratch, removing ALL partitions first, so as to get a bootable default install on a single drive, with no apps and no data.
    2. If you need a drive D: for data, use MiniTool Partition Wizard (free) to resize C: and create an empty D:.Ensure the new C: is at least as big as the C: partition on Image 2.
    3. Install Reflect.
    4. Take full backup Ė Image 3: (Plain vanilla Windows)
    5. Reboot into Reflect Rescue and restore the C: partition from Image 2 into the C: partition on 500GB SSD.
    6. If Image 2 has a D: partition as well, restore that as well
    7. On completion, a normal boot should be successful, with all your data present.
    8. If you need to recover data from the original 32GB M2, you can browse the partition in Image 2 and recover individual files into C: or D: as needed


    I think that will do the trick.

    I'm no bitlocker expert, but I would only use bitlocker if it's really needed. I THINK I have read somewhere that Reflect can't optimise backups as efficiently on account of the encryption (that may be incorrect).
    Even so, I would only use encryption if the data is both really important and at real risk e.g. the baddies would make several tons of money if they got access AND you have reason to believe the baddies are likely to attack YOU in preference to others.

    My guess is that more problems are caused by lost BitLocker passwords than by lost data - at least in the non-business realm.

    I'd hasten with great caution if I were you. Good luck
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  3. Posts : 601
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #43

    spilly said: View Post
    I’m replying only in case those who know lots more than I do don’t see this and reply themselves.

    It would help if you clarify how these two drives are used – i.e. where are the various boot partitions? Where is the system drive (C:\)? Where do you keep application software? Where is all your data?

    Windows default action is to keep everything on C:\, because everyone (nearly) has a C: drive, and very few have a 2nd HDD. I suspect your present system may use the 32GB SSD only for paging, virtual memory management and temporary files. If so, it should still run in a single drive, with the 32GB SSD totally removed from the system.

    You want to reconfigure the hardware because you’re running out of space, so let’s ignore Bitlocker until the dust has settled. I'll also ignore the battery until afterwards. You don’t need a bigger battery to make the system run; it just gives you longer between battery re-charges.

    So Step 1 is to move from a 2 drive system (1 x 32GB + 1 x 250GB) to a single drive system (1 x 500GB).
    Step 2 will be the battery
    Step 3 BitLocker.

    Before you start, I recommend you

    • Create new Reflect Rescue media on CD or USB
    • Switch off Bitlocker;
    • Install MiniTool Partition Wizard (free)
    • Take a full system image backup (Image 1 - insurance policy)
    • Browse this image (Reflect in Restore mode) to understand the purpose & contents of every partition on each of the 2 drives. This should tell you what you need to change so it can become a single drive setup – which is what our new setup on the 500GB SSD will be.
    • Move any personal data you want to keep from 32GB to 250GB and test it reboots OK.
    • Take a full backup at this point. (Image 2)

    The aim is that the registry should not need the 32GB drive to be present in the system to boot & run.

    As I say, I can’t think what the 32GB SSD may be doing other than memory management. If you have no personal data on that drive, I would check if there are boot partitions on it, and if not, I would try a reboot with the 32GB removed. If Windows boots and runs as a single drive, as it might well do, you can just use the MiniTool Partition Wizard Migrate OS function onto the new 500GB M2. Otherwise...

    ...When you’re happy the 32GB SSD contains only system partitions & system data, I recommend you do the following

    1. With only the new 500GB M2 drive installed, re-install Windows from scratch, removing ALL partitions first, so as to get a bootable default install on a single drive, with no apps and no data.
    2. If you need a drive D: for data, use MiniTool Partition Wizard (free) to resize C: and create an empty D:.Ensure the new C: is at least as big as the C: partition on Image 2.
    3. Install Reflect.
    4. Take full backup – Image 3: (Plain vanilla Windows)
    5. Reboot into Reflect Rescue and restore the C: partition from Image 2 into the C: partition on 500GB SSD.
    6. If Image 2 has a D: partition as well, restore that as well
    7. On completion, a normal boot should be successful, with all your data present.
    8. If you need to recover data from the original 32GB M2, you can browse the partition in Image 2 and recover individual files into C: or D: as needed


    I think that will do the trick.

    I'm no bitlocker expert, but I would only use bitlocker if it's really needed. I THINK I have read somewhere that Reflect can't optimise backups as efficiently on account of the encryption (that may be incorrect).
    Even so, I would only use encryption if the data is both really important and at real risk e.g. the baddies would make several tons of money if they got access AND you have reason to believe the baddies are likely to attack YOU in preference to others.

    My guess is that more problems are caused by lost BitLocker passwords than by lost data - at least in the non-business realm.

    I'd hasten with great caution if I were you. Good luck

    Hey there thanks for that information. Excuse me for not replying back to this as i been busy with a lot of other things.


    I will be doing this in 1 day.


    All my information and data is in the 250gb 2.5 inch ssd. It shows about 230gb total and i used up like 180gb or so. The 32gb m.2 ssd... it always had 29.3gb free of 29.3gb. But i transferred about 7gb from my 2.5 inch ssd to it to have more space on my 250gb ssd. I can immediately move it back etc.


    Yea someone else mentioned the 32gb m.2 ssd... if you remove it, the computer would still work without issues etc. So that isn't an issue.


    Yes i read i have to turn off bitlocker while doing this process. Because macrieum would have issues copying an encrypted hard drive. I have no issue with this. Thus i would copy everything to external hard drive. But i do want my ssd at the moment encrypted.


    You say you want me to completely reinstall windows... so you want me to start brand new? Im confused with this. At the moment, i have windows 10 pro and bitlocker enabled. Someone mentioned what i should do is


    When you take out the 2.5 inch ssd and m.2 ssd... then put in the 500gb or 1tb m.2 ssd... then take out smaller 56wh battery and put in bigger 84wh or 97wh battery, then you power on your computer. But when you start it up, press like f2 or f8? Then they want me to boot from my usb as the option. So you say do not do this? Because you say do a complete reinstallation... you mean like set it up like how you normally set up your computer when you buy a new laptop? If i do this, would i then be able to copy the usb to the computer and then when its done... when i start up laptop... everything would look exactly the same as my computer right now? That is what i want... for it to look exactly the same etc...


    Well i have bitlocker key backup. But i know i need to turn off bitlocker to do this process. Then afterwards if everything is good and my new m.2 ssd looks the same as right now... then i turn bitlocker on etc...


    Thoughts on this?


    Also... at the moment, i did not buy the bigger m.2 ssd yet or the battery yet. But as of now, i can just do macriem reflect copy to usb or external hard drive now? I don't have the parts at the moment.
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