Windows 10: System Image Problem Solved

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  1.    03 Jul 2016 #31

    Bill,
    No go!

    The parameter is incorrect. (0x80070057)

    Is there anyway to read the recovery file to see what it expects?

    --
    Nick
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       03 Jul 2016 #32

    caddman6425 said: View Post
    The parameter is incorrect. (0x80070057)
    Is there anyway to read the recovery file to see what it expects?
    Sorry to hear that Nick,

    Back to square 1 - 0x80070057 states there is a problem with the System Reserve - that's what we tried to get around by deleting the partitions on the disk.

    The restore should have created the partitions as they were in the image.
    There are two possibilities in my mind

    1) The disk has issues.
    Do you have access to another PC where you can create a utility disk. I think Partition Wizard might come in handy. It's small enough to fit on a CD

    If not, you can boot to the install disk again and use diskpart to create and format a single partition on Disk 0, then use Chkdisk to test for faults.

    2) The image has issues.
    Do you have an older image?

    Yes there is a way to look at the image - I'm not familiar with it, but there is a tutorial about extracting files. I'll take a look at that and see what can be used to see the layout - probably in an xml file.

    I was also thinking it might be easiest to Clean install Win10. At least that way, you would have a working Windows and could stop booting to the install USB.
    To do that, I recommend getting a fresh ISO - also requires another PC to download and create the USB
    If you don't have another PC to use, the USB you have will have to do.

    Think about those things while I go look for the tutorial on looking at the Image backup.

    If you want to get a head start, I'd like to see what Disk 0 looks like now after the restore attempt

    Boot to install USB
    Shift+F10 at first screen

    diskpart
    sel dis 0
    lis dis
    lis par
    lis vol

    ** grab the information before closing Command


    exit
    exit
    Close install (X in upper right)

    You were kind enough to type the last information gathering.
    To save keystrokes, all I need to see is the actual data.

    Something like this should suffice:

    I only need Disk 0 size and Free space
    Disk 0 596 GB 596 GB

    For partitions:
    Partition 1 Primary 580 GB 31 KB
    Partition 2 Recovery 450 MB 580 GB

    for volumes:
    Vol 3 Ltr C 580 GB
    Vol 4 Ltr H 450 MB

    Of course there might not be any partitions or volumes - won't know until you look.

    Bill
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  3.    04 Jul 2016 #33

    Bill,

    Something is strange. Here is info.

    Disk:
    Disk 0 596 GB 15 GB

    Partitions:
    Partition 1 Primary 580 GB 31 KB
    Partition 2 Recovery 450 MB 580 GB

    Volumes:
    Vol 3 Ltr C RAW 580 GB
    Vol 4 Ltr H NTSF 450 MB

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    Nick
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       04 Jul 2016 #34

    caddman6425 said: View Post
    Bill,

    Something is strange. Here is info.

    Disk:
    Disk 0 596 GB 15 GB

    Partitions:
    Partition 1 Primary 580 GB 31 KB
    Partition 2 Recovery 450 MB 580 GB

    Volumes:
    Vol 3 Ltr C RAW 580 GB
    Vol 4 Ltr H NTSF 450 MB

    --
    Nick
    Perhaps .... but if the image restore got so far and then threw the error, that would account for the same layout. Don't know for certain.

    Do you recall when you last tried the restore (deleting the partitions) if the list par and lis vol showed the same or if the list did not show any partitions on disk 0?

    There's one one thing you could try - I asked you to delete the partitions last time. I wonder if the disk was unallocated if that would help get past this error.

    You would boot to the install USB
    Shift+F10

    Since there are drive letters, you should check the partitions for errors
    This will take some time to run

    chkdsk c: /r
    chkdsk h: /r

    Then
    diskpart
    sel dis 0
    clean

    lis par
    (there should not be anything on that disk now)

    exit
    exit
    Next
    Select Repair
    - drill down to Restore System image

    Here's a tutorial on System image restore - for reference (works the same in Win10)
    System Image Recovery - Restore Image on Computer in Windows 8

    Steps 6 - 9 is what I was talking about when I asked if there were other images you could choose
    Step 8 is where you might be able to specify reformat - which is what I alluded to in a previous restore image attempt.
    The Note box explains what I said might be able to

    Step 11 can tell you the layout in the image


    Here's the Tutorial about extracting files from an image. I think it might come in handy to get the eMail backup once you get a working Windows on that disk - either an Image restore or a Clean install.

    System Image - Extract Files Using Disk Management


    Here's a tutorial on a Clean install
    Windows 10 - Clean Install - Windows 10 Forums

    There are a few key points
    1) Disconnect all external devices
    2) have only Disk 0 and the install media available
    (I don't know if the HP Pavilion disk is internal or external - you probably told me, but I'd have to go look.
    If it is internal - disconnect the sata cable before installing)
    3) Clean Disk 0 (see above diskpart clean) before the install
    4) You've already upgraded to Win10 - when teh install asks for a key - press skip or next.
    You don't have a key to enter ... The original upgrade created a Digital License on the MS activation server(s)

    I'll leave it up to you how many times you want to try the Image Restore or just do a Clean install.

    You're really doing great.
    Last edited by Slartybart; 04 Jul 2016 at 13:32. Reason: put links to tuts in sections
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  5.    04 Jul 2016 #35

    Bill,

    Am I to understand, or am I deluded in my wishful thinking that I can manually restore my hard drive by accessing the .vhdx file?

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    Nick
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       04 Jul 2016 #36

    That I do not know - I try a lot of things and I read a lot and sometimes it all gets blurry.

    I think you could manually restore the hard drive, but I don't know the procedure. There are just some things I do not know

    When in doubt I fall back to known methods. You've tried the Restore System image a few times and have been met with errors.
    I've tried to compensate for the errors but the error persists

    To be honest - I would do a Clean install on Disk 0 and move forward from there.
    It would be easier for you to investigate the issue on a working Windows.

    If a resolution can be found - the image will overlay the Clean install - no need to muck about in the image VHD

    If a resolution cannot be found (bad image?) then you'll have to reinstall your apps and use another source for your backups.

    Before deciding anything - did you do anything in post# 34?

    If the disk is bad (chkdsk) then we;re just spinning wheels.
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  7.    04 Jul 2016 #37

    Hi,

    Can you restore a backup to a RAW partition ??

    Also, is there any need to run chkdsk if you're going to run a "clean" command anyway ?

    Just wondering, that's all.

    Cheers,
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       05 Jul 2016 #38

    fdegrove said: View Post
    Can you restore a backup to a RAW partition ??
    Also, is there any need to run chkdsk if you're going to run a "clean" command anyway ?
    I believe you can.

    Nick has tried the restore a few ways
    - as the disk existed
    - deleting the partitions

    I don't think the restore on a clean disk has been attempted, I'm wondering if the MBR is fubar

    The next attempt might be to manually recreate the 580 GB partition and the 450 MB partition.
    This would answer the question about a raw or unallocated disk - the format partition option in the restore operation should have done that for Nick though .... I think.


    Yes, chkdsk will tell us if there is an issue with the physical disk. A Clean install only writes to the disk. If the disk does have faults, those faults would still exist. Filesystem inconsistencies would be fixed, but not bad spots.
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  9.    05 Jul 2016 #39

    Hi,

    Could indeed be the MBR.
    Still, I'm wondering if the backup itself is healthy. Was that verified by TS ?

    Cheers,
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       05 Jul 2016 #40

    fdegrove said: View Post
    Could indeed be the MBR.
    Still, I'm wondering if the backup itself is healthy. Was that verified by TS ?
    Nick has asked about determining the layout of the image. The install provides some information here:

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	SysImage-b.jpg 
Views:	26 
Size:	66.8 KB 
ID:	88453

    or if there are more images, you can also see the partitions/disks that are part of the image here:

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	SysImage-a.jpg 
Views:	27 
Size:	62.7 KB 
ID:	88454

    Do you another way to verify the image? That would be handy.

    Thanks
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