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  1.    19 May 2016 #11
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    Yeah, that's a thinker. I am a member of a gaming community in G+ where everyone do OCing but I never heard of that issue before. At least you got your issues sorted out.
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  2.    19 May 2016 #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by badrobot View Post
    Yeah, that's a thinker. I am a member of a gaming community in G+ where everyone do OCing but I never heard of that issue before. At least you got your issues sorted out.
    Trust me, I get that. I'm a regular around all sorts of gaming and tech places too, I've asked the question before somewhere and again, no-one seems to have experienced it but I 100% have many times. And thinking about it, only when OC'd.
    Interestingly though, I've only ever had ASUS motherboards, my last one was a P5Q Pro Socket 775.
    I've emailed ASUS about it and pointed them to this thread, so hopefully they can shed some light on whats going on. In an ideal world, maybe they will read this thread and test to confirm this themselves, and maybe we can see a future firmware update to resolve the issue. I may be dreaming with that one, lol.

    This could all be fluke so I could do some further testing to confirm 100% it only happens when I turn on the OC but I've long suspected the OC, suspected it on my last board but ended up getting around the problem by networking the data, pretty suspect that the second I turn it off, my PC works how I expect.
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  3.    20 May 2016 #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by griffinballs View Post
    I've emailed ASUS about it and pointed them to this thread, so hopefully they can shed some light on whats going on. In an ideal world, maybe they will read this thread and test to confirm this themselves, and maybe we can see a future firmware update to resolve the issue. I may be dreaming with that one, lol
    LMFAO, well I did say in an ideal world and lets face it, this ain't one.
    Got a response from a very helpful soul at Asus named Matthew. Its wonderful, it reads: -
    "We don't support overclocking" LMFAO, brilliant.
    Now I can understand the point to an extent.

    But given they shout about their overclocking support on their boards on the friggin box and have such extensive overclocking menus, you would think they would be interested to know, when OC'ing by only 2Mhz, issues with data are seen. Personally, if that were my company, I'd at least want to know if its just my company's boards or if other manufacturers suffer the same.

    So I gave them a nice helpful response of, "Ok, well since you don't want to support me even though I'm not asking for support, I'm simply trying to point out a potential bug in your boards for around ten years, I'll do some testing of my own with different manufacturers, if I find this problem is localised to Asus, I'll be sure to post your helpful response plus all the info necessary to the many overclocking and technical forums that I am a member"

    So fingers crossed Asus...your reputation may well be tarnished if other manufacturers have more success than you.
    I wish you good luck!
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  4.    20 May 2016 #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by griffinballs View Post
    LMFAO, well I did say in an ideal world and lets face it, this ain't one.
    Got a response from a very helpful soul at Asus named Matthew. Its wonderful, it reads: -
    "We don't support overclocking" LMFAO, brilliant.
    Now I can understand the point to an extent.

    But given they shout about their overclocking support on their boards on the friggin box and have such extensive overclocking menus, you would think they would be interested to know, when OC'ing by only 2Mhz, issues with data are seen. Personally, if that were my company, I'd at least want to know if its just my company's boards or if other manufacturers suffer the same.

    So I gave them a nice helpful response of, "Ok, well since you don't want to support me even though I'm not asking for support, I'm simply trying to point out a potential bug in your boards for around ten years, I'll do some testing of my own with different manufacturers, if I find this problem is localised to Asus, I'll be sure to post your helpful response plus all the info necessary to the many overclocking and technical forums that I am a member"

    So fingers crossed Asus...your reputation may well be tarnished if other manufacturers have more success than you.
    I wish you good luck!
    I know ASRock has a great support team. When I was in the market for a motherboard, I registered to ASRock community and wow, I see some tech support members there customising BIOS firmware for individuals with issues running other hardware with ASRock mobo. Really amazing support.
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  5.    20 May 2016 #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by badrobot View Post
    I know ASRock has a great support team. When I was in the market for a motherboard, I registered to ASRock community and wow, I see some tech support members there customising BIOS firmware for individuals with issues running other hardware with ASRock mobo. Really amazing support.
    Nice. In that case in gonna be sure to try this out on an Asrock board. And if they come up trumps. It might be an idea for me to send this info and Asus email to their r+D dept. I'm sure they'd love some info like that
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  6.    20 May 2016 #16
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    I don't understand why would you reimage between 10 to 20 machines a week when you can use incremental backup, I am a bit lost
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  7.    20 May 2016 #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by gijoetech1 View Post
    I don't understand why would you reimage between 10 to 20 machines a week when you can use incremental backup, I am a bit lost
    I'm intrigued as to how you think incremental backup can help my situation? Please elaborate
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  8.    20 May 2016 #18
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    well for someone like you claim that you do 10 to 20 reimaging's of hdd leaves me to think there is something wrong because the technology has moved forward quite a bit then you can have all your work on your job backed up every single day with incremental without ever touching it so leaves me with a puzzle to think when you do these image are you doing things correctly that's what it has to do with it no disrespect and how do you slave a 2.5 inch hdd from your machine as you stated???? i have not seen a ide 2.5 for a long time and if it is ide that is your problem they are too old
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  9.    20 May 2016 #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by gijoetech1 View Post
    well for someone like you claim that you do 10 to 20 reimaging's of hdd leaves me to think there is something wrong because the technology has moved forward quite a bit then you can have all your work on your job backed up every single day with incremental without ever touching it so leaves me with a puzzle to think when you do these image are you doing things correctly that's what it has to do with it no disrespect and how do you slave a 2.5 inch hdd from your machine as you stated???? i have not seen a ide 2.5 for a long time and if it is ide that is your problem they are too old
    OK, not sure if you really understand my job.
    But the idea is, I'm a desktop engineer, in my company, peoples laptops and desktops break daily, hdd dying etc... general corruption through failed updates etc... Motherboards failing, you name it.
    If a hdd dies, I back up the data, get a new hdd and image it with our corporate image. Copy data back to new hdd, give machine back to user. How would an incremental backup help this situation?
    File system gets corrupt for some reason or other. Again, retrieve data with drive slaved into another machine. If hdd passes all the necessary tests and observation, reimage drive and copy back the data.

    I work for a huge multi national company, I can't make them alter any processes they have in place, I'm simply a support technician amongst many across the world. They do not use any form of incremental backup. I'm also intrigued to know again, how would this help in such a big environment with thousands of users, where is this permanent backup being stored? Do you understand the cost implications of a huge company suddenly having a backup of every users machine? What about the network traffic this would also generate? I think you have misunderstood my situation.

    As far as how to slave a drive, simply plug it into a spare sata port. You have mentioned an ide drive when I have not, if so, I guess you are referring to because I said slave I must mean ide. I do not, it is a standard term amongst computing professionals for the process of putting a drive that came out of another machine, into a different machine that has an os on its own hdd to extract the data or perform some form of testing/maintenance.
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  10.    20 May 2016 #20
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    Well I'm sorry I am a professional also and I take care of approximately 25 companies across Canada for one thing as you mentioned and again that you are Drive's are sata drive so the terms for slave used to be used when you moved the jumper on an IDE drive to a selected position like slave primary or secondary so when you use the term slave you automatically talking on our drive with a jumper. SATA drives don't come with jumpers so the term slave is incorrect in our world, beside that all the companies that I assist all of them had a main server to backup their data. as per each individual like you mentioned for a company that large to steal have a method like you said after a hard drive dies you do a backup how do you do a backup of a hdd Drive if anything improper wording it would be.the recovery
    anyways I'm not trying to give you a hard time but you shouldn't go pinpointing in a room such as this there mostly are professionals
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