Windows 10: External backup can't see Desktop

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  1.    01 May 2016 #71

    OK simrick, I've uninstalled O2K, but one reason I hesitated is that it Enterpirse 2007 works differently in Excel and especially in Access, and I'm really lousy at VB. We'll see how this works. OTOH, I still have an old computer running XP and perhaps I could get by with O2K on it.

    I shorten the display time to 5 sec. before I saw your message and that works fine. Just curious, when Win10 installed wasn't it a clean install? How will I get the installation to do so?
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  2. Posts : 11,233
    W10Prox64
       02 May 2016 #72

    Gomer;656407[COLOR=#000000 said:
    ]Hey, You're supposed to be having a nice weekend. What are you doing here? My excuse is that it is cold and rainy and I can't be fooling with the bees as I was planning.
    We have another beekeeper here on the forums! I had to stop in and check this morning on things before the day got too busy.


    Gomer said: View Post
    Also, I copied a file from my user account to Gomers user account, desktop and documents. Logged in as Gomer and looked at the Paths for the desktop file and the documents file.
    ALL ARE NORMAL WITH NO COOKIES INVOLVED, BUT
    as I was about to log out and back into this account, I saw the Cookie Monster hiding, so I'll keep an eye open.
    All looked normal for the paths to the documents in both locations? That's a good thing. But, where did you see Cookie? In the Gomer account somewhere?

    Gomer said: View Post
    Now, what would be the simplest way to transfer program settings,
    Please specify what programs in particular and what settings and I will see what I can do.

    Gomer said: View Post
    and can you point me to ini files for my start menu or whatever it's called in Win10.
    The Start menu should already be the same for all accounts on the system. It resides here:
    C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs

    Gomer said: View Post
    Backup you said would be fine for doc and pictures? (Rather than retype, just point out what you wrote in what entry ## in the 7 screens we have filled and I'll go back to it.)
    A simple "copy-type" backup would be fine. How are you doing your backups? Using WD software? Is it a simple copy operation? In other words, if you went into the WD backup, can you open files directly from it? -i.e. the *.doc files actually show as *.doc files and they will open from the backup location? The reason I ask, is because some backup software will compress the backed-up files, and so they must be "restored" before they are usable. If it is a simple copy function, then they can be copied from your WD drive back to the Gomer account, to the proper locations.

    Gomer said: View Post
    Is it safe to save everything into backup and then restore them to Gomer?
    Only data, not programs, if that's what you mean. And, I don't want to see a "restore" operation to put them back into Gomer - I would like to see a simple "copy" operation, to be sure the "Cookies" problem is not carried over.

    Gomer said: View Post
    Do I have to download all my email/browser/everything else downloadable?
    Please explain how you handle email: Do you get it online, using a browser? Do you use an email client? If an email client, which one, and is it setup as POP3 or IMAP?

    Browsers are different; I'll need to know which you use.

    Gomer said: View Post
    I obviously don't have the equipment (SSD/spinners) that you have for doing the perfect set up, but I don't have that much time in life left and am simplifying to finish what I've already started, so just want to have a safe system.
    And you told me to delete AVG, so I am functioning on Defender, but you said that it is not enough. Since another AV program will shut off Defender, what would make it "enough"?
    Defender should be good, if you add Malwarebytes Antimalware (Free or paid - paid is better, of course), SuperAntiSpyware (Free), and Malwarebytes AntiExploit (Free). This gives you a more layered approach.

    Gomer said: View Post
    And don't you answer this today. Sundays are for fun, unless you are a member of certain religious cults that see Sundays as days to suffer in front of a preacher. Hmmm, guess not or you would be there already.
    Anyway take your dog for a long walk or your cat. My cat Cricket is sleeping just below my cursor, making it hard to see the bottom of this screen. (If necessary I move it to the other monitor, but there she sees it and wants to catch the cursor. She does that with birds on tv too, which is why she has never been allowed outside. Sneaky and those long claws make her a very good hunter.)
    OK, I know I'm just blabbering on wasting your time. Hugs, R- (Oh, I hug everyone but is that allowed on this website? [I'm so old that PC means Prince Charming.])
    That's funny about your cat! I think hugs are permitted.
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  3. Posts : 11,233
    W10Prox64
       02 May 2016 #73

    Gomer said: View Post
    OK simrick, I've uninstalled O2K, but one reason I hesitated is that it Enterpirse 2007 works differently in Excel and especially in Access, and I'm really lousy at VB. We'll see how this works. OTOH, I still have an old computer running XP and perhaps I could get by with O2K on it.

    I shorten the display time to 5 sec. before I saw your message and that works fine. Just curious, when Win10 installed wasn't it a clean install? How will I get the installation to do so?
    The W10 was an upgraded W7 installation, right? You retained all your programs and data when you upgraded. So, *no*, that is not a clean install, that is an upgrade install. And, an upgrade install is where carryover baggage can sometimes muddy up the waters. A clean install would completely wipe your hard drive and install fresh.

    Additionally, a repair install can remedy many problems evident on an upgrade, and it's something we could try once you have everything - and I mean everything - backed up. (I think I mentioned a repair install a page or two ago.)

    Monday is a busy day for me. I will check in when I can.
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  4.    02 May 2016 #74

    simrick said: View Post
    We have another beekeeper here on the forums! I had to stop in and check this morning on things before the day got too busy. Where are they keeping bees?

    All looked normal for the paths to the documents in both locations? Yes All had proper paths
    That's a good thing. But, where did you see Cookie? In the Gomer account somewhere? Screenshot - I copied that same file to the three Gomer folders Desktop, Cookies, Documents, and then went to Gomer account and checked the paths which you can see in the properties box in this image. None were "useraccount\Cookies\Desktop" type

    Please specify what programs in particular and what settings and I will see what I can do.
    One that is opening strangely right now in my account since I uninstalled Office 2000 is the Enterprise 2007. A box comes up saying please be patient while Enterprise 2007 is loaded or installed. Before, Excel or Word just opened.

    The Start menu should already be the same for all accounts on the system. It resides here:
    C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs
    Does this work for all MS programs - both Microsoft and Windows?

    A simple "copy-type" backup would be fine. How are you doing your backups? Using WD software? Is it a simple copy operation? In other words, if you went into the WD backup, can you open files directly from it? -i.e. the *.doc files actually show as *.doc files and they will open from the backup location? The reason I ask, is because some backup software will compress the backed-up files, and so they must be "restored" before they are usable. If it is a simple copy function, then they can be copied from your WD drive back to the Gomer account, to the proper locations.
    Yes, I just went to the WD Passport software and retrieved that Mushroom file and it opened fine from the Retrieved folder.

    Only data, not programs, if that's what you mean. And, I don't want to see a "restore" operation to put them back into Gomer - I would like to see a simple "copy" operation, to be sure the "Cookies" problem is not carried over.
    Understood, I just have the Passport file retrieved to Gomer. Or do I manually copy them as I did the Mushroom file?

    Please explain how you handle email: Do you get it online, using a browser? Do you use an email client? If an email client, which one, and is it setup as POP3 or IMAP?
    I seldom go online to check email with a browser, Gmail seems to be the only one using POP3 while all the rest are IMAP.
    Browsers are different; I'll need to know which you use.
    I use Firefox, Thunderbird for my mail aggregator (you call it client? Terrible geekspeak and abuse of English. I have clients who are people!), some Google products - Chrome (for some things but mostly FFx), Earth, Apple products - Picasa, iTunes, Roboform password manager, Ultramon for multiple monitors. I'm worried that these products might think that Gomer is a separate account and not work properly. Some are paid and of course the others are installable, but will have to be set up again the way I want. Am I worrying too much?

    Defender should be good, if you add Malwarebytes Antimalware (Free or paid - paid is better, of course), SuperAntiSpyware (Free), and Malwarebytes AntiExploit (Free). This gives you a more layered approach.
    OK, and set them up to run and update often?

    That's funny about your cat! I think hugs are permitted.
    Good, cuz even fiercely independent Geeks need Hugs (the male ones especially). Hugs, G-
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Gomer's Cookie folder.png  
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    Windows10Pro 64Bit - Build 14393.1198
       02 May 2016 #75

    Just one thing I would be sure to have a recent backup of is your RoboForm folder, as it stores ALL your passwords. Keep this in a safe place. This folder is located here.
    Documents/My RoboForm Data
    Just copy the folder "My RoboForm Data" folder to a 2nd drive, or even a usb stick. I also use RoboForm. You really don't want to lose this folder.
    Mike...
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  6.    02 May 2016 #76

    OldMike65 said: View Post
    Just one thing I would be sure to have a recent backup of is your RoboForm folder, as it stores ALL your passwords. Keep this in a safe place. This folder is located here.
    Documents/My RoboForm Data
    Just copy the folder "My RoboForm Data" folder to a 2nd drive, or even a usb stick. I also use RoboForm. You really don't want to lose this folder.
    Mike...
    Thanks Mike, I do have a thumbdrive that has that file on it. I once had a hard drive crash, and was freaked out at losing those passwords especially because the files were backed up periodically on discs and I would have only lost a couple weeks of data (a lot of course for the most used files). Like everyone else, I was pretty lax about backup. That incident was a game changer.

    Fortunately I was able to retrieve all of my data files from the old HD, but at the speed of a snail. Over weeks I could copy a file but some took 3 or more hours to copy. Still, I consider myself fortunate that I could get them all back again and have always had a spare HD for backup. Unfortunately, I've had to resort to WD Passport external drive with this computer and my bad habits of storing some stuff on the desktop precipitated this long discussion.

    Again, I appreciate all the help you Ten Forumers are willing to give. Hugs to you too.
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    Windows10Pro 64Bit - Build 14393.1198
       02 May 2016 #77

    After you and simrick get your computer issues fixed gomer, then I would also suggest downloading a good image backup program like Macrium Reflect and do your backups at least once a month. Keep these on an external drive also. This is a Free program and works very well, more dependable than Windows backup. Here is a link for it, incase you want to check it out.
    http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.aspx
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  8. Posts : 11,233
    W10Prox64
       02 May 2016 #78

    Thanks Mike for helping out with Roboform, as I use LastPass, and that saved me some research!

    I am a bit stretched thin today @Gomer, so will reply on the other issues later. Thanks for your patience!
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  9.    02 May 2016 #79

    OldMike65 said: View Post
    After you and simrick get your computer issues fixed gomer, then I would also suggest downloading a good image backup program like Macrium Reflect and do your backups at least once a month. Keep these on an external drive also. This is a Free program and works very well, more dependable than Windows backup. Here is a link for it, incase you want to check it out.
    http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.aspx
    OK Mike I downloaded the installer and will put it into a ToDo Folder. That's a
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  10.    02 May 2016 #80

    simrick said: View Post
    Thanks Mike for helping out with Roboform, as I use LastPass, and that saved me some research!

    I am a bit stretched thin today @Gomer, so will reply on the other issues later. Thanks for your patience!
    Take ALL the time you need, even if it takes weeks. You've given me more time than one could expect. Thank you and a HUG
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